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Anggul Sybarite

Posts : 320 Join date : 2011-06-22 Location : Southampton, England
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Tue Sep 30 2014, 11:05 | |
| Well the GW website has dropped the previous Succubus and Haemonculus but kept the Archon, so I guess they're keeping him for the sake of variety. I wish they had kept the previous Haemonculus too. The new one is posed so much better, but variety is especially good for Dark Eldar.
Thankfully though, our kits are pretty much universally compatible. _________________ "Oh how awful, did he at least die painlessly? To shreds you say? Well, how's his Dracon holding up? To shreds you say? Very well then... Sad, sad, terrible gruesome news about my colleague Archon Mhu'bhutu." - 'The Feather', Dracon of the Bladed Lotus
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Siticus the Ancient Wych

Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-09-10 Location : Riga, Latvia
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Tue Sep 30 2014, 11:54 | |
| Sadly Forumotion decided to swallow my post, so I'll briefly recap my thoughts. The new Archon has mixed reactions because his body language is defensive and implies doubt, lack of confidence. The previous Archon widely and firmly planted his feet on the ground, assuring dominance - he wasn't going anywhere and it's his way or the highway. The new one seems to be more of a manipulator from the shadows, one that prefers to stay behind and throw more men at the problem rather than go in there and take care of it personally. I think the best solution would be if GW still sold the old Archon - then we have two very different Archon models that imply different things. Now, if it was possible for the model to be converted so that the Archon's arms were crossed behind his back - that'd a completely different pose that conveys a very different message. Even one hand behind the back would do miracles!
Of course, as a basis for conversion, the new Archon looks spectacular. I am actually considering to make a new Siticus' model out of this guy - the legs seem to be well-suited for floating pose, and the slightly more intricate armour is exactly what I'm looking for! I mean, yeah, there's the new haemonculus model, but what kind of flesh sculptor ever settles for the stock option?
I guess there might also be one last point to make - over the years we all have seen or converted so many Archons in so many dynamic poses that a very static pose is something we're just not used to at all. _________________ Siticus Empyrean Vision - my Facebook page with various painting projects Siticus' Empyrean Visions log - the project log for my Aeldari works and beyond | |
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Black Death Sybarite

Posts : 264 Join date : 2012-10-02 Location : West Texas
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Thu Oct 02 2014, 06:30 | |
| I'm so glad I have 2 of the metal ones. If I didn't I would use a dark elf dreadlord, this one really is, as stated in the opening post, boring. Now the succubus on the other hand, female archon conversion possibilities, hmm? _________________ " Dismemberment, mutalation and torture. These are the good things in life. Shall I show you?" Succubus Morna Fateweaver of the Cult of Black Death
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John M Kabalite Warrior

Posts : 217 Join date : 2013-03-17 Location : Aberystwyth
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Thu Oct 02 2014, 17:15 | |
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Zal'renah Slave

Posts : 7 Join date : 2014-10-02 Location : Over the hills and far away
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Thu Oct 02 2014, 19:33 | |
| I think they're trying to put across that he knows that he's better than everyone else and so he's standing in his 'posh' pose, while the other idiots in his squad run around like the savage primitives that they hunt. Don't get me wrong, it's not amazing but, I've seen far worse. _________________ 'You know, I look at our lesser kin and I almost feel bad for them, then I remember, their souls are the most delicious and I find that, well....I quite look forward to our occasional visits.' "The Trueborn Zal'renah, just before the destruction of a ship leaving the craftworld of Alaitoc." If you like my avatar go check out Beckjann's deviant art profile, from what I've seen his art is quite popular on this forum.  | |
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Jehoel Kabalite Warrior

Posts : 150 Join date : 2011-07-04 Location : Denmark
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Thu Oct 02 2014, 20:30 | |
| Dont Think i'll be getting this one. Really not a fan of the pose. Although some of the parts are cool (flesh coat I'm looking at you) those legs make him look like a balletdancer making ready for his piruette.
I Will continue to use the "old" model and thankfully my gaming group allows me to use the Lhamaen (spelling?) model as an archon as well _________________ There's a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, 'tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be not now, yet it will come: The readiness is all: since no man has aught of what he leaves, what is't to leave betimes?
- Hamlet, Prince of Denmark
Kabal of Eternal Torment/Cult of Last Caress/Coven of Wasted Tears
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus

Posts : 374 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Fri Oct 03 2014, 21:58 | |
| The new Archon is up for pre-order.
As you can see on the sprue, each leg is separate (the crotch is part of the torso), so conversions using legs from other kits should be easy enough - probably have to file down the crotch to get it to sit in the socket. _________________ Taming the shadows with questionable wit.
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Siticus the Ancient Wych

Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-09-10 Location : Riga, Latvia
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Fri Oct 03 2014, 22:53 | |
| As always, the 3d preview actually allows the models to look much better than in their stock photos (seriously, what's up with GW photographers taking unflattering pictures of their new models?). I quite like the smugness of the Archon, though he's still going to be converted! Siticus wants a shiny new body! _________________ Siticus Empyrean Vision - my Facebook page with various painting projects Siticus' Empyrean Visions log - the project log for my Aeldari works and beyond | |
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Aeterna Kabalite Warrior

Posts : 126 Join date : 2014-02-09 Location : Michigan
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sat Oct 04 2014, 00:03 | |
| Actually like the model now getting the better look, and the face is great, but what is with that hair? It's like he wasn't sure if he wanted to go bald or the ponytail look and said why not both. _________________ "Hear our call children of the void, listen to the screams of your brothers and sisters, see the raining ash from your home. Do you have what it takes to stand back up, or will you fall like so many before you." - Zorev Norterus, Archon of the Immortal Eclipse Kabal of the Immortal Eclipse | Coven of the Shadow Flesh | Cult of the Black Rage
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Siticus the Ancient Wych

Posts : 936 Join date : 2011-09-10 Location : Riga, Latvia
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sat Oct 04 2014, 00:12 | |
| Well it seems they're going for the old codex artwork look, seeing how the unit entries now have a big picture of the model instead of artwork. So this new Archon is the same fellow from the old codex along with his fancy bald topknot. _________________ Siticus Empyrean Vision - my Facebook page with various painting projects Siticus' Empyrean Visions log - the project log for my Aeldari works and beyond | |
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Lord_Alino Lord_Alice

Posts : 1941 Join date : 2013-02-15 Location : The Warp
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sat Oct 04 2014, 02:33 | |
| I'd totally buy this model if I was rich!  | |
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LeonDeclis Slave

Posts : 4 Join date : 2014-10-05
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 04:40 | |
| I shall probably pick up this model, I need to change the equipment on my Archon now but I like the Huskblade too much as a model, so...
Venom Blade or Agoniser? May slap on a Blast Pistol because why not. | |
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Crazy_Irish Sybarite

Posts : 494 Join date : 2011-05-28 Location : Huntsville, Al
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 07:51 | |
| - @LeonDeclis wrote:
- I shall probably pick up this model, I need to change the equipment on my Archon now but I like the Huskblade too much as a model, so...
Venom Blade or Agoniser? May slap on a Blast Pistol because why not. As the venom blade is only for Arcothysts, the answer is agonised ;-) With the better picture now I really like the pose and head of the model. But the arm pose is awful... _________________ ...What about a Bastion made out of Guardsmen as some form of sick sarcasm?...Or a Fortress of Redemption made out of Dark Angels - Sky Serpent
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Cavash Lord of the Chat

Posts : 3222 Join date : 2012-04-15 Location : Stuck in an air vent spying on plotters
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 12:52 | |
| This is one of my favourite models that GW has ever made | |
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Zenotaph Sybarite

Posts : 416 Join date : 2014-04-22 Location : Munich/Bavaria
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 13:09 | |
| - @Cavash wrote:
- This is one of my favourite models that GW has ever made
You really think so? Or did you just forgot the 'sarcasm'-sign? It looks more like a freshly promoted dracon, that is going to prove his value. The cloak is a great part for a haemi, I think, but the whole model doesn't look, well, dignified and ready to challenge the galaxy enough for me. _________________ When I'm good, I'm very, very good. But when I'm bad I'm better. | |
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Cavash Lord of the Chat

Posts : 3222 Join date : 2012-04-15 Location : Stuck in an air vent spying on plotters
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 13:41 | |
| No, I wasn't being sarcastic. This model is easy to convert and kitbash. With the amount of spare bits you'll have from all the other models we practically have a multi-part HQ kit. I prefer this model to the old Archon by miles. | |
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Squidmaster Klaivex

Posts : 2094 Join date : 2013-12-18 Location : Hampshire, England
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 14:25 | |
| I realize it can be kit-bashed, but I guess my original point comes to "Should you have to?"
Obviously I think I lot of people would, and certainly most of us would, but it comes down to whether or not GW have released a singular model which looks good as it is intended, and on that note I think probably not. I've no doubt it can be kit-bashed into something decent, but I'm not a fan of the model as supplied. | |
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Haridar Hellion

Posts : 45 Join date : 2014-08-22 Location : Saint-Petersburg
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 16:05 | |
| @Feuermann If to look on the blister, it seems that torso is made from two parts. So, you can make it for sure! | |
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John M Kabalite Warrior

Posts : 217 Join date : 2013-03-17 Location : Aberystwyth
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 16:29 | |
| I think Cavash makes a fair point, with all the spare parts we'll have lying around we can create our perfect Archon. 'now where is that hexrifle hand* | |
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Cavash Lord of the Chat

Posts : 3222 Join date : 2012-04-15 Location : Stuck in an air vent spying on plotters
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 17:01 | |
| Exactly.
But you don't have to kitbash it. I love the model as it is and I would happily have it as it is. I kitbashed the last Archon I had because I didn't like the head or the soultrap. This one I would happily have as it is. | |
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Erebus HTMLaemonculus

Posts : 374 Join date : 2013-02-13 Location : Your nightmares
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 17:02 | |
| I find myself agreeing with Squidmaster: sure, we can kitbash to create an Archon we prefer - and many of will do so because we want a unique Archon - but the model should be dynamic enough that we shouldn't feel it's a must. Unfortunately, many of us do. _________________ Taming the shadows with questionable wit.
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Mr Believer Wych

Posts : 727 Join date : 2011-09-11 Location : Nottinghamshire, UK
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 17:04 | |
| I've changed my mind about this model, having seen the sprue. Lots of possibilities there, and glad that he doesn't have to do that odd perching pose! I'm glad we've finally got a plastic one too, I hate my finecast one - not because of the pose or anything, just because of the weird way the material seems to absorb paint... _________________ My other car is a Ravager
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Cavash Lord of the Chat

Posts : 3222 Join date : 2012-04-15 Location : Stuck in an air vent spying on plotters
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 17:10 | |
| That's the main reason that I decided I like it so much: I saw the sprue.
I can understand that people aren't fond of it and people have different opinions, but I think it has much more potential to work than the old model. | |
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Mr Believer Wych

Posts : 727 Join date : 2011-09-11 Location : Nottinghamshire, UK
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 17:23 | |
| - @Cavash wrote:
- That's the main reason that I decided I like it so much: I saw the sprue.
I can understand that people aren't fond of it and people have different opinions, but I think it has much more potential to work than the old model. The patchwork skin cloak reminds me of Sliscus too, which is kind of nice. In a morbidly creepifying way, of course. _________________ My other car is a Ravager
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Azdrubael Incubi

Posts : 1795 Join date : 2011-11-16 Location : Russia
 | Subject: Re: The New Archon Sun Oct 05 2014, 18:27 | |
| I will certainly buy it, im on a quest to make an Archon from the cover of 5th edition codex. Head of this new one looks almost exactly the same. _________________ The Dance of Death begins - embraces, caresses, and kisses, The Harlequin loves you as you fall over in pieces!
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