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Dethdispenser
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PostSubject: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 26 2014, 18:58

I have an up coming event in September. A nice size event of roughly 30 people. Scenarios are to be per-determined. The downside is the point limit is really low for what i'm use to. So I was wanting the City's opinion. Anyone have any suggestions on this list?

1750pt Dark Eldar: Codex (2010) Roster (Combined Arms Detachment)
Dark Eldar: Codex (2010) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections:
HQ

   Archon  Haywire Grenades, Huskblade , Kabalite Armor, Plasma Grenades, Shadow field , Soul-trap , Venom Blade

Elites

   Grotesques (3) w/ Raider  Disintegrator, Enhanced Aethersails , Flickerfield , Grisly Trophies
 
   2x Hekatrix Bloodbrides (5) Haywire Grendaes w/Raider Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails , Flickerfield

Troops

   5 X Kabalite Warriors (5) w/ Venom extra Splinter Cannon


Fast Attack

   Reaver Jetbikes 2x Cluster catrops, 6x Jetbikes

Heavy Support

  2X Ravager w\Flicker 3x DL
   
   Voidraven Bomber
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 26 2014, 21:06

I'd switch the 2 bloodbrides units to normal wyches in a raider with aetherseils. You don't need flickerfield since you'll be jinking against anything that fires at them anyhow. Between the two units, this saves you 70 points for the same effectiveness at what they do(tarpit and haywire vehicles).

I'd then use that 70 points to turn one of your warrior squads into a 4-man kabalite trueborn squad with 3-4 blasters depending on your available points. This keeps your detachment legal, and gives you some extra darklight firepower.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 26 2014, 21:18

Thank you for the suggestion. I think I will take that and run with it. I did figure I was missing the Dark Light needed to punch holes into armor.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 04 2014, 00:27

Why are the wyches in raiders? I tend to like venoms even though they have 1 less hull point.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 04 2014, 02:09

WAIT WAIT WAIT! The point limit is low to what you're use to? WHY PLAY 40K WHEN YOU COULD BE PLAYING APOCALYPSE?!? Unless you mean you play 2000 of course.

Bloodbrides are awful. Switch them to Wyches in Raiders is my advice.
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 04 2014, 07:04

Betray has some solid advice. In addition I would get rid of soultrap. Yuo get to attack once with that S6 Archon if you are lucky in some games. Get the Reavers AC (with VB) instead.

@Blacksoul B: That one hull point makes the difference in many situation. In addition Raiders are better in blocking attack lanes with their longer hulls. And Venoms don't get EAsails.

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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 04 2014, 17:16

Lord_ Alino - I'm use to games above 1850. That 100 points is a unit to the Dark Eldar lol.

I have been playing with points a bit. I will be posting a new list. I found that I may of had too many ObSec units. Plus, since this is a hobbyist tourney I wanted the excuse to paint some different Dark Eldar Figs.

The New List:
Dark Eldar: Codex (2010) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ +

* Archon (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p34)
(Fleet, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
Haywire Grenades , Huskblade , Kabalite Armor, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Plasma Grenades, Shadow field , Soul-trap , Venom Blade

* Haemonculus (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p37)
(Altered Physique, Independent Character, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
* Haemonculus
Liquifier Gun , Mindphase Gauntlet , Splinter Pistol
* Haemonculus
Liquifier Gun , Splinter Pistol, Venom Blade

+ Elites +

* Incubi (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p31)
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
Incubus Warsuit
* 5x Incubi
5x Klaive
* Klavex
Bloodstone , Klaive, Onslaught (*)
* Raider
Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails , Flickerfield , Grisly Trophies , Torment Grenade Launcher

* Kabalite Trueborn (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p26)
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
* 3x Trueborn
3x Blaster
* Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (Poisoned ), Splinter Cannon

+ Troops +

* Kabalite Warriors (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p26)
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
* 5x Kabalite Warrior
5x Splinter Rifle
* Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (Poisoned ), Splinter Cannon

* Kabalite Warriors (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p26)
(Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
* 5x Kabalite Warrior
5x Splinter Rifle
* Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon (Poisoned ), Splinter Cannon

* Wyches (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p27)
(Dodge , Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
Haywire grenades , Plasma Grenades
* Raider
Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails
* 5x Wych
5x Splinter Pistol and Close Combat Weapon

* Wyches (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p27)
(Dodge , Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain)
Haywire grenades , Plasma Grenades
* Raider
Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails
* 5x Wych
5x Splinter Pistol and Close Combat Weapon

+ Fast Attack +

* Reaver Jetbikes (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p29)
(Night Vision, Power from Pain, Skilled Riders)
2x Cluster catrops, 6x Jetbikes

+ Heavy Support +

* Ravager (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p45)
(Aerial Assault, Night Vision)
Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts), Nightshield (10pts)

* Ravager (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p45)
(Aerial Assault, Night Vision)
Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Flickerfield (10pts), Nightshield (10pts)

* Voidraven Bomber (Codex: Dark Eldar 2010 p47)
(Night Vision, Supersonic)
2x Void Lance, Void Mine
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 05 2014, 02:31

I think it looks good. Pretty balanced list. Where do you plan to put your Haemonculi? You have 2, right? Putting 1 w/ incubi and the other w/ trueborn, or both in one place?
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PostSubject: Re: 1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points   1750 Tournament List - Not use to so low of points I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 05 2014, 10:47

You should edit your list so that it fits in 12 rows. 1 unit/row. We all know what rules and tandard gear they have.

And familiarize yourself with this Battle scribe

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