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PostSubject: Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening   Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 06 2014, 10:32

So I have a game tomorrow versus sisters of battle + imperial fists (he didn't specify which was primary and I prefer not to know really)

I sort of have a vague idea that I should deal with the sisters mech and meltas before going after the meat, but I have no idea if Imperial fists have any special rules or if they are just regular space marines called Imperial fists?

I'm struggling with my own list as well, I like to use my painted models as much as poss and models that I like, so this isn't trying to build a comp list, just making the best of a bad job I suppose!

Painted I currently have:

Baron
14 hellions inc helliarch

10 warrior inc sybarite + splinter cannon
1 raider for warriors

8 incubi + klaivex
1 raider for incubi

4 blasterborn
1 venom for blasterborn

2 lanceborn ( + mandatory third member)

1 razorwing jetfighter

6 reaver jetbikes (with 1 heat lance and 2 cluster caltrops if need be)

Undercoated I have:

1 Voidraven
1 talos with splinters and liqui
10 wyches
2 venoms
2 raiders
1 trip diss ravager
archon
hamies x 3


Basically I have a lot of combos of these things made up, but my main question beyond general target priority for his army is:

Can I make my incubi work against him with a PGL archon, or will he have a f-ton of ap3 stuff? They are my favourite converted models but I have yet to take them yet as they just seem really really difficult to utilise beyond slaughtering a single squad then being blown to kingdom.

Any advice welcomed Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening   Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 06 2014, 17:55

@Dragontree wrote:
Basically I have a lot of combos of these things made up, but my main question beyond general target priority for his army is:

Can I make my incubi work against him with a PGL archon, or will he have a f-ton of ap3 stuff? They are my favourite converted models but I have yet to take them yet as they just seem really really difficult to utilise beyond slaughtering a single squad then being blown to kingdom.

Any advice welcomed Smile
Okay, well, to answer your second question first - I consider PGL Archon to be obligatory to make any Incubi squad work.

Also, since you know you're fighting Sisters and Marines, yeah, the Incubi are a decent choice, especially if he fields some Centurions or Termies, both of which work pretty well with Imp. Fists.

Now, back to the first question (which really had a couple of questions) But basically you were asking 'what are Imp Fists' and 'what should target priority be?'

The Fists (the finest and most starwartly loyal of the founding chapters, don't listen to the Ultraasmurf propaganda) are basically Marines who love them some bolters and blowing stuff up. In short, when firing a bolter they get to re-roll all results of '1' to hit...yeah, so they are actually more accurate with bolters than any other chapter, having, functionally, almost 50% less misses. Pretty huge, that. Second off, any Devestator (standard or Centurion) will get Tank Hunter and also bonuses to blowing up buildings. That is also pretty solid.

As far as target priority...wow, that's such a huge field to consider with two codices and also your army list.

I would say that top priority for you is anything good at blasting apart groups of models and possibly ignoring cover. Therefore;

Thunderfire Cannon - Fists might have this, it would eat most of your units alive, but is thankfully pretty easy to kill with a bit of focused fire.

Exorcist - A Sister's tank will look like a killer organ or a tank with missile pods on it. It is a very good thing to kill early.

Devestators - if the Fists have some of these with missiles it could be a bad day for you, heck, even plasma, that might almost be worse with their tank hunter rule.

I would call those three things the biggest immediate worries I would ave if I saw them on the board. After that I'd start prioritizing based on situation and the board layout. Definitely other long range high impact shooting would be good to get rid of. Your army actually probably is more scared of flamers than melta (sisters will probably have plenty of both) so I'd tend to target immolaters and the like over...whatever their melta tanks are called, or things like that. Stuff that removes cover saves will eat up most of your army really easily.

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PostSubject: Re: Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening   Advice versus Sisters of battle with imperial fists - 1750pts tomorrow evening I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 06 2014, 18:11

Wow, that sounds pretty nasty.... I think he is also a 'good' player by the standards of the club, so I'll be happy to make 3 turns....

I've decided to go with:

Baron,
13 Hellions + Helliarch with power weapon (its actually the stun claw but I used it because it looks awesome! so power sword or axe feasibly perhaps as wyswig?)

Archon with SF, PGL, agoniser + venom blade
7 incubi + Klaivex
Raider with DL + FLickerfield

10 X Kabalites with splinter cannon in DL raider with flickerfield and racks

5 x Haywire wyches in venom

2 lanceborn + third member on foot

3 blasterborn in venom

6 reaver jetbikes with 1 x cluster caltrops 1 x heat lance (would this be better as 2 squads...)

Trip diss ravager

AND either a razorwing with flickerfield or a void raven with flickerfield.... both same points.. thoughts?

That comes to 1,696 if my maths is right..

Sooo 54 points... would buy me another blasterborn with 27 to spare...

I could tool up my archon more?

Can't add to any other squads unless I upgrade to another raider (which I have) so 5 points for raider and then 40 points on 4 more wyches?

Worst comes to worst I'll just plug in blasterborn and another upgrade on reavers...


Thanks for al the advise Thor,, I'm hoping to a bit more diligent taking pictures this time for a report

EDIT: was only one squad of wyches.. misread my excel sheet.... totally unconvinced of list now... ho hum
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