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JackKnife01
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PostSubject: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 16 2013, 11:51

New List:
Hammi Ancient (Agoniser/Liquifier Gun)- 110
-[9] Wracks (Liquifier Gun) -100
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80

[5] Trueborn (4 with Blasters/ 1 with Dark Lance)- 145
--Venom (Splinter Cannon)- 65

[5] Trueborn (4 with Blasters/ 1 with Dark Lance)- 145
--Venom (Splinter Cannon)- 65

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields/ Chain Snares)- 85

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields/ Chain Snares)- 85

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields/ Chain Snares)- 85

[5] Scourges (2 with Splinter Cannons)- 118

Ravenger (Flickerfields)- 115

Ravenger (Flickerfields)- 115

Razorwings (Flickerfields/Splintercannon)- 165

Total Points 1848/1850

Took out a Razorwing and fixed a minor miscaculation that was shown to me (Thanks Trikk). Added a second Ravenger and I upgraded my Hammi to an Old Hammi. Seems better if he is going to be fighting for those objectives (WS and I wise). Also had some extra points and could not think of what to get so I gave my Raider's Chain snares. This will hopefully soften up points before I assault them. It also seems I was off on my poison shots total last time. Apparently I did not count the 3 each basic scourge does. Shame on me.

Dark Matter shots: 22
Poison Shots: 57
Liquifier Shots: 8



Old List:
Hammi (Agoniser/Liquifier Gun)- 80
-[9] Wracks (2 with Liquifier Gun) -110
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80

[5] Trueborn (4 with Blasters/ 1 with Dark Lance)- 145
--Venom (Splinter Cannon)- 65

[5] Trueborn (4 with Blasters/ 1 with Dark Lance)- 145
--Venom (Splinter Cannon)- 65

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80

[10] Wracks (2 with Liqifier Gun) -120
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80

[5] Scourges (2 with Splinter Cannons)- 118

Ravenger (Flickerfields)- 115

Razorwings (Splinter Cannon/ Flickerfields)- 165

Razorwings (Flickerfields)- 155

Total Points 1843/1850


So looking it over, I choose to make my Scourges a moving Infantry killing force. Switched one trueborn unit's Splinter Cannon with a Dark Lance, this gives me more tank popping power. This will make it easier for my Scourges to do their job, even more so since they can run up 12 inches I also took a Splinter Cannon from a Razorwing and gave the other group of Trueborn their Dark Lance. To my count this gives my list 13 Dark Lances and 7 Splinter Cannons. I also replaced the Grotqueses with 9 Wracks with two liquifier guns. This gives me more troops to take things, at the same time cheaper and still starting with 2 pain tokens. I also found out Ihad way to many points invested, so I have now fixed that issue. This is actually 1843/1850.
This brings my total up to:
Total Dark Matter Weapon Shots a turn: 21
Total Posion Shots a turn: 49
Total Liquifier Shots a turn: 9




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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 18 2013, 01:36

Not bad! the mixed weapon loadout on the trueborn is interesting and unconventional, but if you are using it for hunting guys with a 2+ save and not popping tanks then it should be fine. It helps extend the kill zone to the back of the unit. night shields on assault transports are often a waste, they will be moving into range of those guns eventually to deliver their payload, so those may be worth considering dropping.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 18 2013, 17:24

I used to run 3 squads of Wracks with no Warriors. I always found myself wanting more ranged poison shots if I ended up having an objective in my deployment zone. That way they could actually do something while sitting on the objective. Now I run 2 squads of Wracks and 2 squads of Warriors. I get the same play style of aggressively running the Wracks up against my opponent, but I have added flexibility of the Warriors. Plus, warriors shooting out of a splinter-rack-equipped Raider is really fun.

On a related note, Wracks work best with Furious Charge so that they can re-roll failed wounds on the charge against MEQ. With only Urien there to add additional pain tokens, you only have a 33% chance of all 3 units getting that second pain token, and you have an equal chance that only 1 of the 3 will.

You'll want a 4th Grot. Urien wouldn't leave home without making sure all the seats were filled. Oh, and if you were to drop a Wrack unit, you'd have a 33% chance that Urien and the Grots would be fearless. Just sayin'. Wink

The trueborn are a bit odd (identity crisis) with 4 Blasters + SC. Actually doesn't it say 4 TB can take blasters OR SC?

I'm not a big fan of Razorwings. They suffer from an identity crisis in 6th, having more anti-infantry qualities than anti-air or anti-tank. Also, mine never came out on turn 2. Sad Some people like 'em, and I really liked dissie-equipped Razorwings in 5th edition, but now mine are just collecting dust.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 18 2013, 23:56

Thanks to both!

I am thinking of dropping the nightshields and if I do that should be enough to add a Grot to the Urien unit. If I drop off a unit of Wracks I could replace them for warriors. I could give those Warriors eityher a SC or a DL depending on what I see I am lacking in.

Also it is SC or DL and Blaster or Shedder for the Trueborn. You can equip up to 4 (Blaster or Shredder) of the latter while up to two on the prior (SC and DL).
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 19 2013, 00:05

Noooo don't drop the night shields. They're your only protection against necrons and other 24" wonder armies.
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List is now updated!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2013, 08:39

No suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 29 2013, 14:25

Hello
Seams pretty good, Just a few things:
Why do you have 2 razorwings?
I would personally take one out and add another ravager. That flyer is never worth it's points when I use it Smile
Night shields is a wonderfull upgrade, and I never leave home without them.
But, the thing is, either you take it on all vehicles or on none.
Otherwise the ones without NS, will be killed very quickly, and limits your mobility, because you have to be extra protective of the one without (always 30" away from enemy models when you end movement etc.)

Hope it helps Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe   1850 Army List- Kabal of the Moon Scythe I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 30 2013, 18:49

@JackKnife01 wrote:
New List:
Hammi (Agoniser/Liquifier Gun)- 80
-[9] Wracks (2 with Liquifier Gun) -110
--Raider (Flickerfields/ Night Shields)- 80
I think you need 10 wracks for 2 liquifiers. They`re 1 per 5 models in the squad.
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