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PostSubject: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 15 2013, 10:03

Through an escalation style campaign running at my local GW, I'll slowly but steadily be fleshing out this army into the following list. Nothing is set in stone yet, and there is still some leftover points to play around with, but I'd like any helpful C&C you can offer me.

+++ Coven (1471pts) +++

+ HQ + (190pts)
* Urien Rakarth (190pts)
 
+ Elites + (480pts)

   * Grotesques (270pts)
    Liquifier Gun
       * Aberration w/ Venom Blade
       * 4x Grotesque (160pts)
           4x Master Haemonculus Upgrade
       * Raider (85pts)
           Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails, Flickerfield, Night Shields


   * Kabalite Trueborn (210pts)
      5x Kabalite Trueborn (145pts)
       4x Blaster, Dark Lance
       * Venom (65pts)
         Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon


+ Troops + (250pts)

2 X * Wracks (125pts)
     Liquifier Gun, 5x Wrack
       * Venom (65pts)
         Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon


+ Fast Attack + (156pts)

   * Reavers (156pts)
     2x Heat Lance, 6x Reaver


+ Heavy Support (395pts)

   * Razorwing Jetfighter (165pts)
      Dark Lance x2, 4 X Necrotoxin Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle


2 X * Talos Pain Engine (115pts)
      Armoured Carapace, Twin-linked Heat Lance, Twin-linked Liquifier Gun
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 17 2013, 21:16

Seriously, anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 17 2013, 21:55

Well I don't play Coven very much as my wracks are bad dice roll magnets but a few observations:

Your 5 man Trueborn unit only needs to be 4 for the blasters - the 5th isn't adding much and is making the squad too expensive imho. Also I think you've priced your venoms wrong if you are taking Flickerfields.

Perhaps you are light on troops for 1500 points but that might not matter depending if you need to hold objectives.

Sorry, that's all I've got but good luck Cool 

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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 17 2013, 22:24

Yeah you could drop a trueborn to give the aberration a scissorhand instead.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 18 2013, 05:46

I've considered dropping the Trueborn unit entirely to add two Venoms of Haywiches, but it'll severely cut into my turn Darklight - a single Raidermounted lance. Not sure if that is the smartest thing to do.

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Also, Venoms are 55 bare, Flickerfield comes free. Battlescribe doesn't get points wrong, but it includes all the wargear on the army list - which I've copied here minus some point values.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 18 2013, 07:33

I'd say you are far too light on troops. 2x 5man wracks and thats it.

I'd try to get at least a 10man troop option in there in a raider but deploy disembarked. That way you have an extra raider for your grotesques as this boat will be a t1 bulletmagnet.

The Lanceborne is not worth its points imho, you need to be mobile with this unit and the lance will only get to take snapshots most of the game. Stick with the blasters.

What to drop? A matter of preference
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 18 2013, 12:17

Yep, correct on the venoms, my mistake

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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 18 2013, 15:12

2 troops are really not enough especially when most of the missions are at leat 3+ objectives. Your really lacking in anti armour as well what happens when mech guard show up? And that razorwing is really expensive for what it does keep with its basic load out and give it flicker coz 165 points getting intercepted and shot down is a big waste
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeFri Oct 18 2013, 20:29

Rewritten:

+++ Coven (1491pts) +++

+ HQ + (190pts)
* Urien Rakarth (190pts)

+ Elites + (480pts)

  * Grotesques (270pts)
   Liquifier Gun
      * Aberration w/ Venom Blade
      * 4x Grotesque (160pts)
          4x Master Haemonculus Upgrade
      * Raider (85pts)
          Dark Lance, Enhanced Aethersails, Flickerfield, Night Shields


  * Kabalite Trueborn (210pts)
     5x Kabalite Trueborn (145pts)
      4x Blaster, Dark Lance
      * Venom (65pts)
        Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon


+ Troops + (510pts)

2 X Kabalite Warriors (130pts)
5x Kabalite Warrior, Blaster
* Raider (70pts)
Flickerfield, Dark Lance

2 X Wracks (125pts)
    Liquifier Gun, 5x Wrack
      * Venom (65pts)
        Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon


+ Fast Attack + (156pts)

  * Reavers (156pts)
    2x Heat Lance, 6x Reaver


+ Heavy Support (395pts)

  * Razorwing Jetfighter (165pts)
     Dark Lance x2, 4 X Monoscythe Missile, Twin-linked Splinter Rifle


2 X * Talos Pain Engine (115pts)
     Armoured Carapace, Twin-linked Heat Lance, Twin-linked Liquifier Gun

That makes:
- 4 troop choices
- AT: 3 Dark Lances, 2 Blasters, 2 Heat Lances, 2 HWB... plus two more Lances when the Razorwing comes in.

So that's more long range AT; dropping the Kabbies for Haywyches would add Venoms, but reduces my range and therefore Turn 1 AT.

Although I must admit: the Grots, Wyches, Reavers and Taloi would all be rushing forward. That's 6 targets that can wreck armour face on turn 2. Add the Wrack Venoms if there's infantry.

Target saturation, anyone? Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: 1500pt Coven List   1500pt Coven List I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 21 2013, 20:10

The razorwing is only 155 pts (although keep it at 165 and give it flickerfield). I'd also swap the dark lances for disintegrators but that's just preference.

Also that dark lance trueborn is really not needed. He slows down the unit or is a waste of pts by only being able to snap fire.

Lastly I'd swap the venom blade on the abberation to a scissor hand as your wounding on a two plus with rerolls against most targets anyway so the extra attack is much more worth while than his use against the few tougher targets he'd face IMO.

Hope this hleps.
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