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PostSubject: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 13:41

I'll start pillaging with my new Dark Eldar in Kill Team soon. Right now I only got pack of warriors/trueborn, wracks and a Venom. My oponent will go with 5 Dire Avengers in a Wave Serpent.
My list is:
3 Trueborn (Splinter Cannon, Dark Lance, Blaster)
5 Warriors
1 Venom w/Splinter Cannon

The eldar transport seems pretty insane:|
Should I even bother trying to damage the Serpent or just go for mission objectives and hope to survive?
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 14:00

All that will happen is that the Eldar player will target your Trueborn in the first turn and completely obliterate them, leaving you with nothing that can damage the wave serpent. The rest of the game is then just a mopping up exercise. Do you have any other options for your army?

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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 14:09

Not right now, but my opponent have so he can go without Seprent for the fun factor:P
What will you recommend in KT and 500pts games against those nasty transports?
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 14:13

Our best anti-tank option is probably Wyches with Haywire Grenades but it is difficult to get them in assault range of a fast skimmer. Failing that, possibly a Talos but again you have the problem of getting into assault range.

Ranged options, maybe Scourges with Heat Lances or Haywire Blasters.

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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 16:25

I guess I should buy some new space elves then:)
I'll try:
5 Bloodbrides w/haywire
+ Venom w/ Splinter Cannon
5 Warriors w/blaster

Thx for the tip Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 16:29

Stick with Wyches rather than Bloodbrides. They are cheaper and, for the purposes of Haywire use, just as effective.

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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 17:59

I would actually ban both Wave Serpents and Venoms for kill team. Makes for a far more interesting play.

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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 16 2013, 20:00

Are you playing Kill Team using the rules pack on the Warhammer World Events page?
Main Rules: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2860630a_40K_Kill_Team_Pack_2013_(6).pdf
Dec 13 changes: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3440287a_Kill_Team_Update_for_December_2013.pdf

If you are there are a couple of things to work in your favour:
1) All models in kill team count as individual units. So that Wave Serpent is going to nuke one guy really hard but it won't take out all your AT in turn 1. Unfortunately tha't's also true for your venom!
2) Specialist rules are useful. Relentless on the Lance guy for example; hide him turn 1 then pop him out to shoot the Serpent.

If you follow the Dec update rules Wave Serpents are not allowed anyway (F/S/R total of 34) amongst various other restrictions.

Hope that's some use.

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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 17 2013, 00:58

Also remember that taking a vehicle in Kill Team will bring your total number of models right down, meaning much earlier break tests.
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 18 2013, 21:45

@Sand Viper wrote:
All models in kill team count as individual units. So that Wave Serpent is going to nuke one guy really hard but it won't take out all your AT in turn 1. Unfortunately tha't's also true for your venom!
This is the first thing to know when playing against WS in Kill Team.

@Dra'al Nacht wrote:
Also remember that taking a vehicle in Kill Team will bring your total number of models right down, meaning much earlier break tests.
When you factor this in, you just try to focus on killing everything except the WS and force the break tests so you win for free. The WS can only kill one model each turn so it isn't actually a big threat, it just doesn't die.

Also after the Dec update you can't play WS as Sand Viper mentioned. If you're not playing with the update then just follow the formula above.
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 20 2013, 00:39

I'm after my first two games of 40k since.. 4ed?
The first KillTeam game goes poorly. My 5 wracks in venom and 5 warriors with blaster vs 5 Warp Spiders and 5 Rangers. In first turn I lost most of my warriors and then wracks lost CC with spiders.
In the second game I played against 5 Dire Avengers in Wave Serpent so I switched wracks to wyches. I went more carefully and hide my units before he puts his avengers squad in the open. Shoot them with venom and warriors. The next thing was five wyches with granades wracking poor Serpent.
What I learned is that cover is essential and transports could wait for a game on a bigger table.
Wave seprent is not so scary after all:)
Thanks for the tips:)
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeFri Sep 20 2013, 17:19

No vehicle can have a combined Armour Value of more than 33 (Side Front and Rear combined), which excludes the WS if you're playing strictly by the GW rule set.
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PostSubject: Re: How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team?   How to bite Wave Serpent in Kill Team? I_icon_minitimeSat Sep 21 2013, 02:01

Yeah, Sand Viper mentioned it earlier. It was a friendly game and I wanted to try my wyches anyway:]
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