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hbomb1
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PostSubject: 2k competetive   2k competetive I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 24 2013, 06:16

Ive been out of 40k for awhile now, with a baby and school and what not, used to play 3-5 times a week, but haven't been able to as much anymore. Ive played a few games in 6th, won most of them but now trying to go full force to get back into 40k.

I got my Dark Eldar army on a trade all NiB and have had quite a bit of success in friendlier games with it, now trying to get ready for some local tournaments. I don't have any Eldar units, but can get some if it shows that I need them.

Here is the list so far...
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Vect
Haemonculus w/ Liquifier Gun-60

Elites
3x3 Trueborn w/ 2 Splinter cannons-168

Troops
8 Wyches w/ Haywire Grenades, Hekatrix Grenade Launcher in a Raider w/ flicker fields and night shields-196

4x5 Warriors w/ Blaster in a dual Cannon Venom 500

Fast
10 Scourges 4 Haywire Blasters-260

2x6 Reavers-264

Heavy
2 Voidraven Bombers w. Flicker Fields-310

Vect and the Haemonculus ride with the wyches, Scourges are there cuz I like the models, reavers ride around bladevaning folks, the trueborn used to be 3 units of 3 with 2 dark lances, but changed them to the cannons to make points. Not sure how competitive it is, so C&C is welcome.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k competetive   2k competetive I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 25 2013, 07:49

I'D say not very competitive. Trueborns and warriors are ok, but vect with heamy and wyches don't make it. Wyches are at their best in 5 strong hwg squads to kill tanks. Vect would like to have some resilent wounds around him. I suspect that the heamy is there to give them first pain token and then stay behind so that he doesn 't slow the others down.

Scourges are hard to use in a competitive enironment. 9 reavers with arena champ for better ld sounds better than naked 6. It's easier that way to get those pain tokens they so much need.

Bombers are meh. They get to shoot max 3 times each during the game and thats not worth 300 pts.

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PostSubject: Re: 2k competetive   2k competetive I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 25 2013, 13:02

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Bombers are meh. They get to shoot max 3 times each during the game and thats not worth 300 pts.
Yeah take a couple of ravagers instead and use the left over points elsewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k competetive   2k competetive I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 25 2013, 17:14

It's not competitive in the sense that I wouldn't expect it to win at a tournament but it has a lot of strong elements which should do well in a less competitive environment (just playing at the store or whatever).

I would also dump the Bombers and get 3 Ravagers. Scourge aren't great, but you said you like them so I would suggest splitting the squad into 2 units so you can threaten more units at once. I'm not sure which weapon works best on them but if you like the Haywire Blaster then make sure you're shooting at max range against vehicles!

I don't know how useful the Night Shields will be on the Raider, especially if you don't put them on every vehicle but it could help avoid close range rapid fire. Vect costs too much, but if you keep him then upgrade one Wych to have a Shardnet & Impaler to help against specialist units. Otherwise do what Vasara said to the wyches.

Reavers are okay, but work best if you can threaten vehicles imo. I would try to squeeze 2 blasters or heat lances into each squad so you can bladevane one turn, then they need to deal with the reavers or you start killing tanks.
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PostSubject: Re: 2k competetive   2k competetive I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 25 2013, 18:07

I actually played a game last night against a friend of mines orks, he ran Ghazzkull with meganobz in a battle wagon, biker warboss w/ a full nob biker squad, 2 dakka jets, a loota squad, burna buggies and the rest was a few units or trukk boyz. The bikers were downed in turn one by massed fire.
It was Dawn of War, mission Big Guns Never Tire. I won the roll off, he stole the initiative.
Scourges killed off his burna buggies, but spent the game trying to do so and lost almost half the squad to return flamers.
Voidravens killed the jets real quick and the void mine brought down the battlewagon forcing ghazzkull to walk a bit, but I think Im going to drop it to just one with 2 ravagers, more Dark Lances would have been better at the first turn.
Reavers bladevaned the lootas, but after that they kinda flew around not doing much, I think Im gonna add 2 heat lances or blasters to them.
Warriors did what they needed to captured objectives and shot the boyz down.
And the wyches performed exceptionally well with Vect, killing off the meganobs and Vect killed off Ghazkull on his Waaagh.
At the end, I had lost two venoms, all the trueborn, and a few Raevers. All he had left was a Dakkajet and an immobilized burna buggy and I had 3 objectives. So after reading the comments and talking to some other players at the store, here is an alternative list.

HQ
Vect
-He was the VIP last game performed better than I expected, but he is expensive, probably wont use him in smaller games
Haemonculus w/ LG
-You were right, he stayed in the boat flying around flaming random squads

Elite
3x3 Trueborn w/ 2 Dark Lances
-Changed from SC to the DL for more Turn 1 AT

Troop
4x5 Warriors w/ Blaster In Dual Cannon Venoms w/ NS
-Same, just added NS

7 Wyches + Hekatrix, all with HWG, Hekatrix has PGL and VB in a raider w/ FF NS
-Same just gave her a Venom Blade

Fast
2x6 Raevers w/ 2 Heat Lances
-Added HL for some duality, ran out of targets last game for just Blade Vanes

Heavy
2 Ravagers w/ NS
-More T1 DL

Voidraven w/ FF
-AA two was just too much, dropped to one

Going to get another game in this weekend, was challenged by someone else with a Draigo wing list. Said hes gonna run Draigo, an terminator inquisitor w/ psycannon. 10 paladins 4 psycannons, terminators w/ 2 psy cannons one psyfleman dread and a dreadknight. Not sure what other equipment they have.
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