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PostSubject: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2013, 21:16

Hey all, this is my Dark Eldar/ Eldar all comers list that i have been trying out this week. so far i am 2-0 against a raven wing and mech IG list. I just want too hear what y'all think about this list and improvements if needed.

Dark Eldar: 1850 list.
HQ:
Archon Sevroth the Twisted: Husk Blade , shadow field, Soul Trap, haywire grenades 140pts

Troops:
Kabalite warrior squad (10): 1 Blaster, splinter cannon, Syrabite, Venom Blade, Raider , Night Shields, Splinter Racks 205pts.
Kabalite Warrior Squad (20): Syrabite, Venom Blade, Blaster, 2x Splinter Cannon 230pts.
Wych Squad: Hekatrix, Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, 5 haywire grenades(2pts each), Raider, Night Shields(10 pts) 188pts

Elites:
Kabalite Trueborn: (3), 2x Splinter Cannon, Venom splinter cannon, night shields 136pts
Kabalite Trueborn: (3), 2x Splinter Cannon, Venom splinter cannon, night shields 136pts

Fast Attack:
Scourges: 2x Haywire Blasters 130pts.

Heavy Support:
Ravager: night shields (DL) 115pts
Void Raven Bomber: Flicker Field, Shatter Field Missiles 165pts.

Eldar Allies

HQ:
Farseer Idrial Soul storm: 100pts

Troops:
Dire Avengers: 5 dire avengers 65pts

Heavy Support:
Wraith Knight: 240pts

I may switch the dire avengers for 3 wind riders and put farseer on a jet bike. haven't decided and will try first before switch.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 30 2013, 21:38

Hi.

Feedback will be easier to give if you give some information on WHY the list/units look the way they do. One thing to remember with dark eldar. We are a specialist army, one unit generally have ONE task, CC, tarpitting, AT, AI etc etc. We do not have jack of all trades units.

First glance questions;

Where does Archon go?
Warrior Squad 1; what is the general plan here? Blaster upgrade 18'', Cannon 36'', sybarite with venomblade CC, nightshields usefull mainly long range. What is the goal with the unit? Id trim a lot of fat of this unit.
Warrior squad 2; Plan? Footslogging unit, yet you have CC upgrades and 18'' blaster. Why? I'd trim this
Wyches; CC tarpitting units/tank hunters, what is the point of Nightshields? You will be within range t2 anyways.
Dire Avengers; 5 man footslogging, what is the plan here?

These are the thing units that stick out the most for me and before commenting on overall setup i want to understand what your plan with the list and the separate entities is.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 03:38

My first squad of 10 is a gun boat squad.
My Archon is in the wytch squad in the dissie raider. night shields on there for when I go 2nd.
Foot slogging 20 man squad because they have longer survivability. I also put my farseer in this unit so she can cast with ease.
Dire Avengers where basically for a troop choice for my Eldar. I didn't have enough for a wave serpent which is why I am considering jet bikes.
But I keep forgetting to remove the venom weapons. thank you i'll do it now.

Dark Eldar: 1850 list.

HQ:
Archon Sevroth the Twisted (Combat Master): Husk Blade, shadow field, Soul Trap, haywire grenades 140pts (With the wytch squad)

Troops:
Kabalite warrior squad (10): 1 Blaster , splinter cannon, Syrabite, Raider, Night Shields, Splinter Racks 200pts. (Gun Boating)
Kabalite Warrior Squad (20): Syrabite, Blaster, 2x Splinter Cannon 230pts. (Foot troops)
Wych Squad: Hekatrix(10pts.), Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, 7 haywire grenades, Raider, Night Shields 192pts (Archon’s Cohort)

Elites:
Kabalite Trueborn: (3), 2x Splinter Cannon, Venom splinter cannon, night shields 136pts (Anti Infantry)
Kabalite Trueborn: (3), 2x Splinter Cannon, Venom splinter cannon, night shields 136pts (Anti Infantry)

Fast Attack:
Scourges: 2x Haywire Blasters 130pts. (Anti-Tank)

Heavy Support:
Ravager: night shields 115pts (Anti-Tank)
Void Raven Bomber: Flicker Field, Shatter Field Missiles 165pts. (Anti-Tank/ Anti-heavy infantry)

Eldar Allies

HQ:
Farseer Idrial Soul storm: Jet Bike 115pts (Support)

Troops:
Guardian Wind Rider Squad: 51pts (Reserve objective targets.)

Heavy Support:
Wraith Knight: 240pts (Anti-Vehicles)
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 16:34

Ok. Thanks, easier to feedback now.

Warrior sq 1; Sybarite is generally not worth the points. 10p for +1Ld essentially.
Warrior sq 2; same here, and even less usefull for footslogging as you hopefully will stay out of CC and farseer is already here for LD.
Wyches; Don't think you can select haywires on some models, all or nothing. "The entire squad may be armed with..." I assume this is 9man squad.

If you plan on sticking Farseer with 20man troop the jetbike might be trimmable?

trimmings;
20p Remove sybarites
15p jetbike for farseer

add:
4p haywire for full unit of wyches.

This leaves some points to play around with. Personally I would get 2 lances in the big blob of warriors as this is the only way I see them working. Parked in cover with farseer on an objective.

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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 19:35

I would also add take out the blaster out the warriors units to get the most of the splinter racks but leave the SC it give you another 30 pts to spare also I'm a big fan of Flickerfields ( so many with ignores covers nowadays)
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 01 2013, 23:54

yea i'm going to have to take a look at it. I think I like the idea of the farseer staying in the blob instead of biker group but I love the idea of Dark Lances in it. I like the Blaster in my boat because of multiple targets and gives an extra overwatch with the dark lance on the raider which helped me immobilize a dread in my last game on his charge lol. but I will look at it. thanks guys I really appreciate the feed back!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 All comers list   1850 All comers list I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 15 2013, 16:57

I put the farseer on a jetbike and replaced the dire avengers with wind riders.....it worked great the list placed 3rd in the tournament I played. Thank you for the help,!
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