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PostSubject: Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list   Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 20 2013, 14:16

Hi guys, need some help with this one:

HQ

Archon Huskblade, Venom Blade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher,
Soul-trap, Shadowfield, Combat Drugs 175 pts

ELITE

Incubi x 4 Klaviex
Raider 163 pts

TROOPS

5 x Warriors Blaster
Venom 2x Splinter Canon 125 pts

5 x Warriors Blaster
Venom 2x Splinter Canon 125 pts

5 x Warriors Blaster
Venom 2x Splinter Canon 125 pts

7 x Wyches Hekatrix, Agonizer, HWG
Raider 174 pts

FAST ATTACK

9 x Reavers 3x Blasters, Arena Champion, Venom Blade 258 pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Ravager FF 115 pts

Ravager FF 115 pts

Voidraven 155 pts


Total 1530 pts



I have no idea what to lose as most of my units are MSU. I guess it will have to be some uppgrades, but I quite like the ones i have.

The Arcon is super expensive, but I just love the HB/ST combo, and I need the PGL for the Incubi. Guess I could remove the CD and VB, but they might make a big difference with a little luck.

I also know a lot of people dont like the Klaviex, but I like having him so my Archon dont have to waste a round of assault on a pesky sergeant.

I could loose the Agonizer on the Hekatrix, or downgrade it to a VB, but with the Agonizer it is almost a guaranteed wound at I 6.

I also like the Arena Champion for the extra LD, but guess I could lose the VB but its only 5 pts -.-

And NS on my Ravagers has saved them more times than I can count, so like to keep them aswell.

I havent tried the Voidraven yet, but as my group has been buying a lot more flyers lately I have the feeling I'll need some AA.

So what do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list   Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 20 2013, 14:54

at a glance, the reavers seem out of place. As much as i'd hate to suggest either lowering the amount of them, or (gasp) even drop them all together, that's what im going to do.

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Drop the VB on the Champ.
Trade the Agonizer for a VB.
Drop Combat Drugs from the Archon.


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PostSubject: Re: Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list   Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 20 2013, 17:26

Well, voidraven is 145 pts right? That's 10 pts. Unless there's a field on it.

You could drop drugs on the archon. That's another 10.

Maybe remove one wych, that's 30 points.

Well, or you could follow psycheer's advice. I guess his makes more sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list   Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 20 2013, 22:00

These are some possibilities.

Go with a Razorwing--saves 10 points
Personally, it makes more sense in my mind to cut the Arena Champion and switch to Heat Lances--saves 21
I would also be inclined to reduce the number of Reavers to six--saves 78
Klaivex also seems pretty expensive to me but I understand why he's there--saves 15
Your Night Shields are listed as Flicker Fields. That said, your other vehicles lack Night Shields--save 20 points
Scrap lots of the Archon's upgrades such as the PGL, Venom Blade, and perhaps combat drugs--saves 40 points

You could also go with Psycheer's advice because Venom Blades are strictly better than Agonizers against non MEQs-- saves 15 points.

Personally, I think that your anti-tank is a bit lacking. 2 Void Lances, 7 Dark Lances, 6 Blasters, and 7 Haywire Grenades.

If you were to implement each of these suggestions, you would save up to 174 points. Those points could buy another troop choice, perhaps a second squad of Wyches or a Raider with Warriors. You could also take a Haemonculus with a Shatter Shard and Venom Blade in the stead of an Incubus to increase the unit's chances of survival in addition to taking another Kabalite Venom. He solves your challenge problem, can act independently, and could also potentially destroy a unit of Assault Terminators.

Take whatever suggestions you want but those are some ideas.


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PostSubject: Re: Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list   Need to lose 30 pts for my 1500 pts list I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 21 2013, 14:26

both void ravens and razorwings are 145 base... 155 when you take a flickerfield (which you should always take)

+1 to psycheer, although I would lose the soutrap over the combat drugs. Venomblade is nice, but you arent going IC hunting with it

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