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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 10:58

Awesome, great guide!
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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 13:34

I used to be a bit handy with the Tau back in the day. If you have any questions about them PM me.
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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 17:09

My only question regarding Tau: how do I convince my opponent to stop taking Broadsides and Crisis Suits? Bribes? Candy? Blackjack to the rear of the head?

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 17:40

Codex that have other viable options should work.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 17:40

Thank you for the amazing work! I'm having some difficultly lately with Grey Knight Purifiers (I think, the 2 wound Terminators) especially with an attached Librarian. Maybe you could take a look at them soon?
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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2011, 18:38

I won't lie. Grey Knights, being the new kid on the block, are the codex with which I have the least experience. I've developed solid theories and practices against them, but have gotten precious few games in, since these past three months have been perhaps the busiest of my life... and my regular Grey Knight player is full-on Warmachine now.

The model you're thinking of is the Paladin, by the way. Purifiers are much scarier.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 03:50

Saturated DL fire takes care of paladins just fine. 5++ or die.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 03:58

Eldar tactica coming along, but taking longer as I'm writing more. I got to use the phrase ceramic defecatorium.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 04:03

Oh btw Gav Thorpe ruined my life Evil or Very Mad , so more Gav bashing please Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 04:53

@Baron Tordeck wrote:
Oh btw Gav Thorpe ruined my life Evil or Very Mad , so more Gav bashing please Twisted Evil
Hey, be fair, Gav has...
ummmm... a name worthy of a good 40K character?
Path of the Warrior was good, I guess.
(Apropos of nothing, every new 5th Edition Codex makes me more and more grateful for Phil Kelly doing Orks and Dark Eldar right) cheers

As for Grey Knights, they can certainly eat most other armies alive, but they are an army that focuses on MEQ and Monstrous Creatures with a sprinkling of everything else. Dark Eldar are pretty much the Paper to their Rock.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 05:17

In Gav's defense, he actually tried to make the Chaos book more varied, but Alessio came down on him with a concrete hammer. GW was pursuing this whole minimalist less-is-more approach to wargaming and Chaos was the pinnacle of this philosophy - before they realized that particular idea was about as intelligent as licking electrical sockets and a whole lot less exciting.

@Spanna uv Komor-AAAGH! wrote:

As for Grey Knights, they can certainly eat most other armies alive, but they are an army that focuses on MEQ and Monstrous Creatures with a sprinkling of everything else. Dark Eldar are pretty much the Paper to their Rock.

Errrrnnnn... not exactly. We've got some definite strengths, but so do the GK. I'll get into it, no worries.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 07:17

Sweet god, I just wrote 3 pages on the Farseer alone. I hope you guys are going to like this one. Fair warning, this likely won't be ready until Sunday. I have a good amount of work to do tomorrow and an all-day event on Saturday.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 09:10

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this likely won't be ready until Sunday.
Can work as a birthday present Cool

I'd prefer that you wrote about vanilla marines or Tau next, that is what I have the most problems with...

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Dang! I was hoping Tyranids followed the Pokemon naming idea. A big Carnifex running around just yelling "Carnifex! Carni-Carnifex!" followed by a squad of termagants all saying "Termagant" to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 15:44

I was thinking about either of them.

Does nobody seriously have any problems with Orks? I swear, they kicked me stupid until the newest codex was released - of course, then I won every time.

Hey, wait a second...

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 16:05

Never had a problem against orks. Though, I only played them once, and then it was mainly my count-as Eldrad who made the big jobs...

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Dang! I was hoping Tyranids followed the Pokemon naming idea. A big Carnifex running around just yelling "Carnifex! Carni-Carnifex!" followed by a squad of termagants all saying "Termagant" to each other.
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@Spanna uv Komor-AAAGH! wrote:
@Baron Tordeck wrote:
Oh btw Gav Thorpe ruined my life Evil or Very Mad , so more Gav bashing please Twisted Evil
Hey, be fair
I had 5000 pts of Chaos that was invalidated by his rubbish and has since been sold or traded off. They were my first army and my love of their fluff is what really got me into Warhammer. I can be bitter if I want Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 22:25

Yea the Legions of Chaos really got neutered by the "renegades" book. I feel for you veteran Night Lords, and Iron Warrior players.
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@adesapere wrote:
Yea the Legions of Chaos really got neutered by the "renegades" book. I feel for you veteran Night Lords, and Iron Warrior players.
Really? How about the Emperor's Children players who lost their entire army? Who spent about $700 in just bits for sonic terminators, bikers and tanks?

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2011, 23:38

@Hashmal wrote:
Chaos Space Marines posted. Eldar is next.

I can't find it… am I missing something?
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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 11 2011, 00:08

I was actually BL and it was the fluff turn that killed the book for me. Rules were eh.

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PostSubject: Re: Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion   Hashmal Takes on the Universe - Discussion - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 11 2011, 00:14

I'm very interested to see your thoughts on DE/Eldar match up, I think Eldar are one of the harder match ups for DE.

I wont say anything else now as I do not want to plant any ideas, I just wan't to see your pure opnion.

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@Todo13 wrote:
@Hashmal wrote:
Chaos Space Marines posted. Eldar is next.

I can't find it… am I missing something?

You must be. It's on the front page. Just follow the link in my first post under The Armies list.

...if you're referring to the Eldar analysis (damn you unclear pronouns), then the reason you can't find it is because I'm not done with it yet!

I actually just hit the Troops section. As an aside, once I top the Eldar codex off, I'll be somewhere near 80 written pages between the codices. Yikes this is big!

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@Sorrowshard wrote:
I'm very interested to see your thoughts on DE/Eldar match up, I think Eldar are one of the harder match ups for DE.

I wont say anything else now as I do not want to plant any ideas, I just wan't to see your pure opnion.

Say all you'd like; conversation is good. I'm pretty well-versed in the Eldar, as I said, and I know what's devastating against DE and what's not. They can definitely be beaten and I've done so multiple times - you just have to know what to do. Funny that the Eldar don't play like Space Marines...

I'd much rather face off against a tough-as-nails Mechdar list than a Chimera Wall, any day of the week. Talk about nemesis.

*I meant to add that you're quite unlikely to change my analysis unless you've got some stunning insight I've managed to miss over the last several years of not just playing against them but helping my friends build winning Eldar lists.

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@Xelkireth wrote:
@adesapere wrote:
Yea the Legions of Chaos really got neutered by the "renegades" book. I feel for you veteran Night Lords, and Iron Warrior players.
Really? How about the Emperor's Children players who lost their entire army? Who spent about $700 in just bits for sonic terminators, bikers and tanks?

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I didn't want to mention that cause I KNOW your pain... so sorry.
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@adesapere wrote:
@Xelkireth wrote:
@adesapere wrote:
Yea the Legions of Chaos really got neutered by the "renegades" book. I feel for you veteran Night Lords, and Iron Warrior players.
Really? How about the Emperor's Children players who lost their entire army? Who spent about $700 in just bits for sonic terminators, bikers and tanks?

/rant

I didn't want to mention that cause I KNOW your pain... so sorry.
*grumble* I quit for over a year because of it.

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