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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 15 2013, 10:42

I usually end up nutting the desk whenever the subject of "counts as" comes up. Normal argument being "Just because A counts as B it isn't actually B". No but we treat it as though it was B, because THAT'S WHAT COUNTS AS MEANS!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 15 2013, 21:45

Those kind of arguments really annoy me, not just because they are idiotic, but because I can imagine some poor player being ambushed by such an argument during a game, and then browbeaten into accepting it by their opponent and his/her cronies because they weren't prepared. And you don't always have a tournament judge on hand because you are not always playing at a tournament.

The 'counts as' phrase is used a number of times in the rulebook, e.g. the Lance rule. Are we to ignore that rule entirely now? And the others that also contain that phrase?

And Shadows is right, why does he suddenly bring fluff into his argument? Such people usually hate the fluff because it's always excluded from RAW discussions. What nonsense!

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 15 2013, 22:00

@Squierboy wrote:
Those kind of arguments really annoy me, not just because they are idiotic, but because I can imagine some poor player being ambushed by such an argument during a game, and then browbeaten into accepting it by their opponent and his/her cronies because they weren't prepared. And you don't always have a tournament judge on hand because you are not always playing at a tournament.

This, and when abusepuppy said:

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in a friendly game I'd probably let people do it without punishing them for it, but the rules are relatively clear on what happens.

I was rather shocked that he would do it in a tournament, let alone even consider doing it in a friendly game. The way he used the word "punishing them for it", was just pathetic, like he was getting a power trip out of it.

He's just a wannabe Stelek in my eyes now.

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Feb 15 2013, 22:04

How about this to really get the rule-lawyers going:

The entire game is "Count As" - we roll a bunch of dice, which "count as" little plastic men shooting and swinging pointy sticks at each other, but they don't actually shoot anything or do any of that, so therefore nothing actually has happened. Game over.

I love a good slippery-slop argument. (sarcasm)
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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 14:36

Well it looks like GW has answered this question for you guys.... No flyer can deepstrike anymore!!!! Great... my one tactic against CronAir got flushed right down the perverbial GW toilet Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 17:43

@Shadows Revenge wrote:
Well it looks like GW has answered this question for you guys.... No flyer can deepstrike anymore!!!! Great... my one tactic against CronAir got flushed right down the perverbial GW toilet Razz

Lol, yes - gloriously badly-timed discussion if ever I saw one! At least the necron flyers can't do it to you either.

There's a lot of interesting stuff down that proverbial GW toilet, by the way.

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 17:47

Okee dokee. Hey guys where can I find this ruling?
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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 18:00

Faqs updated on the gw website.

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 20:33

flyers really can't deep strike anymore? is that a joke?

I can't find the faq rule about flyers not being able to deep strike

Help me find it

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 20:42

hmmm


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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 20:50

It's just you. Have you tried to change the country on the GW website?
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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 21:00

I found out why.
on the canadian site the faq's are in polish and in english...

and I found the deep striking thing.... Colin is a sad Archon

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PostSubject: Re: Deepstriking flyers!   Deepstriking flyers! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 16 2013, 21:43

Page 46/93 – Razorwing Jetfighter, Special Rules.
Remove the Deep Strike special rule.
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