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PostSubject: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 26 2012, 14:10

So what would you bring if you where to build a 2000 pts Dual Force Org list? For me, the first thing I would change would be to exchange my Blasterborn for more Ravagers, saving some points along the way.....but I don't think much else would change

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 26 2012, 21:27

Take a Haem + 3-man Wrack unit to fulfill the minimum requirement and then add 3more ravagers Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 26 2012, 22:23

I take my standard list since it already includes enough troops and HQ's then simply use the second to get another Quad-gun. Although this is purely because I only face a Necron flyer list at the moment.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 02:30

@Count Adhemar wrote:
Take a Haem + 3-man Wrack unit to fulfill the minimum requirement and then add 3more ravagers Smile

Min 2 troops don't forget...2x 3 man Wracks Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 03:03

So wait, let me get this straight. At 2000 pts the Force Organization chart is esentially
HQ 2-4, Elite 0-6, Troop 4-12 , Fast Attack - 0 - 6, Heavy Support 0 - 6?

Then on top of that you can add in allies?!?
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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 03:28

@Orthien wrote:
I take my standard list since it already includes enough troops and HQ's then simply use the second to get another Quad-gun. Although this is purely because I only face a Necron flyer list at the moment.

That's rough, buddy.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 07:13

Don't forget 0-2 Fortifications

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 09:03

So for me I'm looking at:

2x Haemie, Liq
4x 5 HWG Wyches in Raiders, NS
1x 10 Warriors, SC in Raider, SR, NS
1x 3 Wracks in Venom, Dual Cannons
2x 6 Reavers, Caltrops, HL
5x Ravagers, DL's
1x Voidraven, FF

Maybe swap 1 Ravager to Dissies....for a little flavour

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 16:24

at 2k+ you can have this.

Primary:
1-4 HQs
0-6 Elite
2-12 Troops (to unlock dual force org you must have 2 HQs and 4 Troops)
0-6 Fast Attack
0-6 Heavy Support

Allies:
0-2 HQs
0-4 Troops
0-2 Fast Attack
0-2 Heavy Support

(To unlock allies, you must have atleast 1 HQ and 1 Troop per Primary FOC)

0-2 Fortifications (you get 1 per primary FOC)

basically... thats alota units...

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 22:40

Thats incorrect Shadows you need to take the second force org almost as seperate so its;

2-4 HQ
0-6 Elite
4-12 Troops
0-6 Fast Attack
0-6 Heavy
0-2 Fortifications

And the Allies at;
1-2 HQ
2-4 Troops
0-2 Fast Attack
0-2 Heavy

At least that was my understanding. Don't have my rule book with me to double check at the moment so feel free to correct me especially on Allies.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 08:31

DE don't need fortifications, fortifications are for pussies, not for us :ppp ( let's just wait for the new FAQ to find out what we'll really have to deal with flyers )
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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 09:45

Im paiting list with Duke, Lelith and Baron. All stars, all drugs. )

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 10:03

Army 1)
Archon - VB, Drugs, PGL, SF
Haem - Liqui
7 incubi
Raider with dizzi
3 squads of 5 wyches w hwg + venom w dual cannon
Ravager w dizziz and NS
2 squads of 3 wracks - one is aco w hexrifle

Army2)
Archon - VB, Drugs, PGL, SF
Haem - Hexrifle
3 incubi
Venom w dual cannon
Razorwing w dizzies and ff
Razorwing w dizzies and ff
2 unites of 3 wracks - one is acothist w hexrifle, joined by an extra haem w hexrifle - in a venom w dual cannons

2010 pts
6 HQ, 2 Elites, 7 troops, 6 Venoms, 2 REQ, 2 flyers, tons of shooting, tons of targets, heavy and support cc, AT, AI,

well...counting dual forc or...my optimall would be 11k+ Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 13:04

Couldn't you just edit your post instead of writing "-Xyz"?

On topic, any list for 2000 points should have at least four troop units anyway, and many have also a second HQ. Therefore it's very easy to just add additional flyers/Ravagers, depending on what the list is missing. I'd probably go with two lance Ravagers, one Disintegrator Ravager, two Razorwings and a Voidraven. If I needed the points, it'd be four lance and two Disintegrator boats.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 13:12

That means a third of your army approximatively would be composed of only Heavy Support, that seems pretty much unbalanced overall for a 2k points army to me.
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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 13:20

@Kinnay wrote:
Couldn't you just edit your post instead of writing "-Xyz"?
if that is for me, then yes i wanted to edit-.- anyway i reported it myself to have it deleted as fast as possible, sry if this wuz a thorn in your side Razz i didnt mean to crash anyones childhood life.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 13:26

My poor childhood... >_<
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Nah, don't worry, I should have figured you were trying toedit it, sorry. Wink

And about the army list, yes, you're right... Uhm, then only the boats like in my last example. It could work nicely, I think, if the remaining part consisted of enough troops and fast attack.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 14:56

@Orthien wrote:
Thats incorrect Shadows you need to take the second force org almost as seperate so its;

2-4 HQ
0-6 Elite
4-12 Troops
0-6 Fast Attack
0-6 Heavy
0-2 Fortifications

And the Allies at;
1-2 HQ
2-4 Troops
0-2 Fast Attack
0-2 Heavy

At least that was my understanding. Don't have my rule book with me to double check at the moment so feel free to correct me especially on Allies.

lol we are both right. You have to remember that you DONT have to take the second force org. Hence why I still have the 1 HQ and 2 Troop min.

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 20:44

I know at 2000pts I will be adding 3 units of 6 RJB with heat lances on to my 1500pt list Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 28 2012, 21:06

@lululu_42 wrote:
I know at 2000pts I will be adding 3 units of 6 RJB with heat lances on to my 1500pt list Twisted Evil

and do you have 2 set of HQs and 4 troops to make them dual for-org?

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pts Dual Force Org   2000 pts Dual Force Org I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 29 2012, 20:13

I still have to tweak the list up a little I 'll probably drop some of my allies for more dark eldar goodinies but as of right now its only a paper list since I don't play above 1500pts often.

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