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Bauglir
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PostSubject: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 07:38

Hi there,

I have:

10 warriors with dedicated Raider.
1 Heamonculus

May I deploy the warriors next to the raider but joined by the Heamie? The Heamie then goes off on his onw, leaving the pain token with the warriors. The warrios embark and buzz off.

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 09:04

Sounds cheesy to me... Even if it would be legal, I would give you at least a nasty glance if I were your opponent.

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 09:10

Nope. Not legal. The whole unit must be inside the vehicle, and when joined to a unit, the IC is part of the unit.

It's also unnecessary, just have the haem detach from the unit and leave the raider.
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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 09:13

It is legal, units don't have to start inside their dedicated transports, and independent characters can start with any unit they want (give or take a few exceptions).

I don't see what's cheesy about it either, those warriors are exposed on the first turn and are toast if you don't go first.

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 09:43

ahahaa I misread the post. I believe mush is correct my bad. I thought you wanted the warriors in the raider and the heam out. Silly me.
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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 09:48

@Melkor wrote:
ahahaa I misread the post. I believe mush is correct my bad. I thought you wanted the warriors in the raider and the heam out. Silly me.

Don't worry, I thought that as well the first time I read it. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 11:04

@Chaeril wrote:
Sounds cheesy to me... Even if it would be legal, I would give you at least a nasty glance if I were your opponent.

????

I hope you are kidding - pain token shuffle is pretty standard for dark eldar!

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 11:15

@Massaen wrote:
@Chaeril wrote:
Sounds cheesy to me... Even if it would be legal, I would give you at least a nasty glance if I were your opponent.

????

I hope you are kidding - pain token shuffle is pretty standard for dark eldar!

Well I am not doing it. Just like I don't put down a Doom Diver in my all goblin WFB army. Seeing the insane and stupid carnage it inflicted before on my Empire knights (no armour save allowed falling goblin...) and acting annoyed as a consequence would make it extremely hypocritical of me to use one myself now that I can...
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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 11:41

The rules are right there in the codex for all to see and transferring pain tokens is simply part of the standard DE strategy. I very much doubt that any of your opponents would be concerned or even surprised by this. Most opponents would be wondering why you're not doing it!

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 14:37

yes, its legal. And pain token shuffle is really the only way to use Hellions...

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 21 2012, 20:39

Thank you all for the replies.

You've helped me out.

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PostSubject: Re: is this legal?   is this legal? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 27 2012, 13:55

I've tried this before, and it turned out really bad for me. Althought I didnt get to go first and night fighting wasnt on, so buddy drop podded a flamer dreadnaught right beside my warriors and toasted them all, so all I was left with was a 1 shot ravager wanna be.
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