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PostSubject: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 01 2012, 07:26

Hi all, I've decided to start collecting DE as my "main" 6th ED army. Since i'm in AUS and cheap GW models are outside of reach, i'll be using the Megabox (Not sure if this box is an Australian thing only as I don't see it the US site) + Raider + HQ to keep my initial cost ($) somewhat minimal.

Here's my first attempt at a list:

HQ
Lelith Hesperax - XXX points

*Please do not post special character costs - copyright issues, thanks! Kwi*


Elites
4 Bloodbrides w/ Syren – 94 points
Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, Haywire Grenades
+ Venom – 75 points
extra cannon, Night shields

Troops
10 Kabalite Warriors w/ Sybarite – 145 points
Agoniser, Blaster, Splinter Cannon
+ Raider – 80 points
Nightshield, Splinter Racks

7 Wyches, w/ Hekatrix – 112 points
Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, Haywire Grenades
+ Raider – 80 points
Nightshield, Sails

8 Wyches, w/ Hekatrix – 122 points
Agoniser, Hydra Gauntlets, Haywire Grenades

Fast Attack
6 Raider Jet Bikes w/ 2Arena Champion - 206 points
2xHeat Lance, 2xCluster Caltrops

3 Raider Jet Bikes w/ Arena Champion - 96 points
Cluster Caltrops

5 Scourges /w Solarite – 144 points
2x Dark Lance

Heavy Support
Ravager – 130 points
Flickerfield, Night Shields, Aesthersails

Total - 1459points

This list will be playing against Salamanders, GK, Eldar, CM and Green skins.

Any tips would be welcome Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 01 2012, 09:24

wow wait hold it STOP!
No, you are not a space marine, you cant equip us to be multi tasking, we are specialists!
Lelith, ok, Brides...not my stile but ok, agoniser...well ok, hydra gauntlets emm...razor flail is better except in every 6th game you play on average - reroll to wounds on drug chart.
nightshields on venom is a no-go. That thing will be in the face of the enemy, no reason for it to have that upgrade.
drop the syba on the warriors he'll do you no good, for as i mentioned, we arent marines.
with all the points freed up, give the footsluging wyches a raider, they'll just love you for it...maybe they'll even become your lhamaeans Very Happy
reavers...i dont like them, but kit them out to be either boosters, or a suicide squad with heatlances. And forget the arena champion, unless you give him a VB also...but reavers arent an assault unite.
scourges, get rid of the solarite, give them haywire blasters.
Ravager, remove aether sails, you wont need it.

And welcome to the forum Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 01 2012, 10:23

Thanks for the input - frankly I was a bit lost at first since my only 40k experience stemmed from playing Chaos Marines (which in itself is very limited) so any input is great. I guess I didn't really think this list through too much by the sounds of it. However from your suggestions I drew up the following:

HQ
Lelith Hesperax - XXXpoints

Elites
4 Bloodbrides w/ Syren – 94 points
Agoniser, Razorflails, Haywire Grenades
+ Venom – 65 points
extra cannon

Troops
10 Kabalite Warriors – 115 points
Blaster, Splinter Cannon
+ Raider – 80 points
Nightshield, Splinter Racks

7 Wyches, w/ Hekatrix – 112 points
Agoniser, Razorflails, Haywire Grenades
+ Raider – 80 points
Nightshield, Aesthersails

8 Wyches, w/ Hekatrix – 122 points
Agoniser, Razorflails , Haywire Grenades
+ Raider – 80 points
Nightshield, Aesthersails

Fast Attack
9 Raider Jet Bikes - 258 points
3xCluster Caltrops

5 Scourges – 130 points
2x Haywire Blaster

Heavy Support
Ravager – 125 points
Flickerfield, Night Shields

Total - 1436

So I have a very small amount of points to play with (if I had more models i'd just fill more numbers on the wyches) not that matters since I play friendly games mostly.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 01 2012, 10:29

use a counts as wych then, it wont hurt anyone in friendlys Smile and be sure to alwayse turbo with the reavers. And they are reavers, not raiders XD you'll get the hang of it soon enough Very Happy i used to call the ravager reaver Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 01 2012, 10:33

That's some awful copy pasting on my part rofl. You'd think from all the soul storm I used to play and the spam of all the bike spam i'd get the name right. However, thanks again for your input Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 02 2012, 18:40

whats wrong with the Scourges, i mean he doesnt really have any anit tank??? haywire blaster imho are on of the best gimicks in the game right now, and can some plz tell me what with all the ravegers???? BOMBERS are the best anti flyers anti take anti infantry in the game with maybe the only exception being that necron flyer being better anti flying/tank but again be get the leg up on handling troop and bombers have a lance bomb. bring them
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 02 2012, 19:06

@cal88 please read other messages, he modified his list to have haywire.

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 02 2012, 19:08

lol yeah i noticed thanks the big thing i wanted to add was the flyer.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Points - New to DE   1500 Points - New to DE I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 04 2012, 08:49

Few things on the Reavers. Though expensive, having at least one caltrops on the squad for that first turboboost may very well be worth 20 points. Then, they take up their anti-tank roll. Remember to put your caltrops on the same model as your heatlance. Also, having the Arena Champ is worth 10 points on a squad of 6 or more simply for leadership purposes.

I find flickerfields to be redundant on my ravagers now. I can cover up 25% of the front arc 1st turn (about the size of a nickel?) and every other turn they're moving.

Since you are not taking the standard (though boring as hell) 3 Ravagers, you may want some more AT. You could possibly convert some basic warriors into blasterborn using those leftover disintegrators.

Finally, Even though you still have your SC in your warrior boat, keep them 12" from something and rapid firing as much as possible.

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