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Horned Havoc
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PostSubject: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 07 2012, 10:34

Hello everybody!

I am looking to start playing this game at the ripe age of 34 and, as a fan of villains, I fell for the Dark Eldar. Since I do not see myself going to high-end tournaments I just wanted to check with the professionals (AKA you guys) to see if my list is somewhat viable before I start to buy the minis or if I am messing things up in a major way.

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HQ
Archon (195pts)
Combat Drugs, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shadowfield, Webway Portal

Haemonculus (60pts)
Liquifier Gun

Haemonculus (95pts)
Liquifier Gun, Webway Portal

Elites
Incubi (198pts)
4x Incubi incl. Klavex
Demiklaives, Murderous Assault
Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon

Kabalite Trueborn (146pts)
3x Blasterborn
Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon

Kabalite Trueborn (146pts)
3x Blasterborn
Venom
Flickerfield, Splinter Cannon

Troops (820pts)

Kabalite Warriors (165pts)
Raider
Dark Lance
10x Warriors
Blaster , 9x Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors (200pts)
Dark Lance
10x Warriors
2x Dark Lance, 8x Splinter Rifle

Wracks (Troops) (165pts)
Liquifier Gun, 9x Wracks
Raider
Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies

Wracks (Troops) (50pts)
5x Wracks

Wyches (240pts)
Razorflails, 2x Shardnet and Impaler
15x Wyches incl Hekatrix with Agoniser
15x Haywire grenades

Heavy Support
Ravager
Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Ravager (105pts)
Aerial Assault, Night Vision
Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Talos Pain Engine (130pts)
Additional close combat weapon, Twin-linked heat lance, Twin-Linked Liquifier gun

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I guess you can call this a hybrid list. The Wyches with a haemo and the Talos stay in reserve. The Archon goes with the Incubi in the Venom to hunt for opponents HQs. The Raider with the Wracks gets a Haemo attached and rushes forward to plant a WWP and (hopefully) release the Wyches (big unit to make up for overwatch) and the Talos (LOVE the model and gamble on either it or the Wyches surviving the round of WWP deployment to do some damage the following turn). The tiny unit of Wracks stays in the back to secure an objective while the Ravagers and the Raider-Warriors try to blow up tanks while the Blasterborn Venoms either deal some hurt to infantery or soak up at least some shots to distract from the juicer targets. Archon has a back-up WWP.

That's the plan, anyways. I read that WWPs are much weaker now but they are still a good way to get the Talos in close, right?

Thank you in advance, fellow DE fans.
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PostSubject: Re: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 07 2012, 10:43

The problem is that you can't charge after coming out of the WWP. For things like the talos or wracks it sucks but they can still tough it out, but for wyches they get torn apart pretty easly in a turn of shooting.
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PostSubject: Re: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 07 2012, 11:07

Don't discard the wwp just yet. Keep trying and see if it is working for you.
My biggest suggestion is to run dissies on least one ravager so you have some thing to pop 2+ units with. Splinter canons can't and dark lances don't have enough shots for a large squad

My Archon with husk blade has been stomping so far Smile

Also, don't be aggressive with portal placement. Be tactical.
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PostSubject: Re: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 08 2012, 17:47

The only problem I see is that your ten man Kabalite squad can't take 2 Dark Lances it can only be one per ten Kabalite Warriors. Other than that it looks good to me. And I am not sure about your WWP because you cannot assault from a table edge, so if anything I would say you should have it deployed by some sort of cover. But to me it is just not cost efficient. But try it out and let us know how it went.
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PostSubject: Re: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 08 2012, 17:57

ttn89 wrote:
The only problem I see is that your ten man Kabalite squad can't take 2 Dark Lances it can only be one per ten Kabalite Warriors. Other than that it looks good to me. And I am not sure about your WWP because you cannot assault from a table edge, so if anything I would say you should have it deployed by some sort of cover. But to me it is just not cost efficient. But try it out and let us know how it went.

Thank you, I misused Battlescribe there and did not check back with the Codex. I will just replace it with a blaster and spend the ten points on some other upgrade.

Anyways, I do have my doubts about the WWP as well, seeing that the units won't get to assault until turn 4 under the best of circumstances. I guess only time will tell (as it will take me a couple of months to assemble that force).

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PostSubject: Re: First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts   First Dark Eldar list 2000 Pts I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 08 2012, 18:17

First of all: Welcome to the Dark City!

The list looks solid. I won't say the WWP is useless - you just have to use it in another way than in 5th ed. Now it's for your shooty units, not your assault.

The range of models you put in gives you enough possibilities to change your list later on (smaller units of Wyches or Warriors Venoms for example).
Perhaps try some additional Jetbikes to get another fast Attack/Tankbusting unit. Jumping in and out of cover is really fun.




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