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PostSubject: 2000 pt list   2000 pt list I_icon_minitimeSun May 27 2012, 19:51

ok so I am relatively new to 40k (currently play necrons). thinking of starting my second army soon. my wife plays dark eldar and after reading her codex I found it very interesting/fun and devised this list.

Hq: asdrubael vect

troops: 5x kabalite warrior
raider- flickerfield, nightshields

5x kabalite warrior
raider-flickerfield, nightshields

5x kabalite warrior
raider-flickerfield, nightshields

5x kabalite warrior
raider-flickerfield, nightshields

5x kabalite warrior
raider-flickerfield, nightshields

5x kabalite warrior
raider-flickerfield, nightshields

elites: 3x kabalite trueborn- 2x splintercannon
venom- nightshields, splinter cannon

3x kabalite trueborn- 2x splintercannon
venom- nightshields, splintercannon

3x kabalite trueborn- 2x splintercannon
venom- nightshields, splintercannon

heavy support: voidraven bomber-4x necrotoxin missle, nightshields, flickerfield

voidraven bomber- 4x necrotoxin missles, nightshields, flickerfield

voidraven bomber- 4x necrotoxin missles, nightshields, flickerfield

if I wrote my spreadsheet right that should be 1998 points. the idea is let the opponent go first and then deploy offensively. 50% chance you steal initiative. It's risky, but no risk no reward. the amount of firepower you unleash your first turn should cripple most armies if all goes well. 12x splintercannon, 6x dark lance, 6x void lance, and 12x necrotoxin missles.

Thoughts?

(if this list is standard i apologize, this is just what popped out at me. I did not chek forums much as my only net is a crappy 3g phone).
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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pt list   2000 pt list I_icon_minitimeSun May 27 2012, 22:06

First off, welcome to the forum, serismeliche!

Secondly, your list does indeed come to 1998. I have serious issues with much of it. From top to bottom

Asdrubael Vect

I think this guys wants an assault unit to go in. He wants a group of Wyches or Bloodbrides that he can add some serious punch to, or a unit of Incubi to make a powerhouse unit. Give the Space Pimp a nice entourage!

Warriors

They need Blasters! The utility of the single Blaster is key for minimized squads. Additionally, their vehicles do not want Night Shields. Night Shields are a situational upgrade- you don't get their benefit every turn, let alone every time an enemy shoots at you. They should only be on very valuable units, and then only if you have the points for them

Trueborn

I'm not sure purely Splinter Cannn equipped Trueborn add much to your army. Your army has a lot of anti-infantry shooting, but not a ton of anti-tank. 3-4 Trueborn with Blasters is popular, and I would suggest at least 2 of those units. Now, I have a good friend who likes to use 3 Blasters and 2 Splinter Cannons per unit, but I find mixed units to be awkward.

Voidraven

Speaking of mixed units...wow. Those Voidravens cost so much, and have such a big target on their head. You could save 40 points each and get a Razorwing with a Flickerfield and Night Shields, which does almost the exact same thing. As a guy who uses the Razorwing, I can tell you the Monoscythe Missiles are all you need. There is no need to pay more than you should. Then, the choice of Dark Lances or Disintegrators is your call. I go full anti-infantry and leave the anti-tank to Warriors and Trueborn Smile

My major suggestions are: 1. Equip your Warriors 2. Drop the Night Shields off of cheap units 3. 1-3 squads of Trueborn with Blasters 4. Voidravens become Razorwings 5. Using the points saved this way, give Vect an entourage.

I recommend this entourage-

4 Incubi
Venom, 2 Splinter Cannons

The small unit size and Venom is to give you a small transport that you can hide behind terrain, completely negating Line of Sight. As it is your only assault unit, it will have a massive target on its head, and hiding is really your best way to protect it.

Have fun shooting with Dark Eldar; hopefully Vect and his crew can seal the deal up close and personal!

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PostSubject: Re: 2000 pt list   2000 pt list I_icon_minitimeTue May 29 2012, 16:14

your idea of the list isnt bad, but your exicution is off.

First off Vect is fine, but he needs to get into assault to do work. The best thing is a squad of wyches (as your elite slots will be used up) just bare that in mind

Secondly your set up for your warriors is backwards alittle bit. Instead of taking 5 man raider, take 5 man w/ blaster in dual cannon venom, that way you get 12 splinter cannon shots, and keep your one darklight shot (just shorter range)

Witth that change, the trueborn can drop the splinter cannons, and pick up blasters, this gives them more AT than what you had, but it still puts out the AI fire you were looking for.

Now lastly we have your HS. Void Ravens should never take missles. Their job is AT and AT only. That turn you are wasting shooting missles at a unit, is the same turn you could of cracked some more armor. If you want more AI, get razorwings, but your list really doesnt need it. Just stick with 3 Ravagers w/ flickerfields and use the points elsewhere

Lastly I would drop 1 of the warrior units to add in a wych unit for Vect. 9 man w/ shardnet, haywires, and Hekatrix w/ Agoniser in raider w/ flickerfields will do fine.

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