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PostSubject: Hexrifle and FnP   Hexrifle and FnP I_icon_minitimeTue May 08 2012, 06:58

I vaguely remember seeing a thread about this awhile back but can't find it now. So, was wondering about input for your thoughts on order of effects if a model has FnP and fails its save against a wound inflicted by a hexrifle. INAT addresses it but in a way that, to me, seems contradictory to the ruling just before it. Only wondering because I am drafting up a list to start play testing for Feast of Blades and have noticed a rise in GK IC's not being put in units in local meta and some bat reps online, so I figure it would be worth a shot to take a couple on haemy's to deny kp's and make wracks a troop choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Hexrifle and FnP   Hexrifle and FnP I_icon_minitimeTue May 08 2012, 14:18

FNP ignores an injury but it does not negate the remainder of the Hexrifle rules, so you could concievably make a FNP roll to ignore the wound but still fail the subsequent Wounds test and be removed anyway. You could also argue that the Hexrifle is a weapon that inflicts Instant Death and therefore ignores FNP entirely, although the fact the ID requires a further test after rolling to wound implys that this is not the intent.

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PostSubject: Re: Hexrifle and FnP   Hexrifle and FnP I_icon_minitimeTue May 08 2012, 14:41

The hex rifle DOES NOT cause ID... it removes from play which is very different in 5th ed.

http://www.theruleslawyers.com/2011/10/rulings-dark-eldar-hex-rifles-vs-feel-no-pain/

This is the best summary of the rules i have found.

Basically, both rules are triggered and its possible to be removed from play while still passing FNP... which while strange, makes sense

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PostSubject: Re: Hexrifle and FnP   Hexrifle and FnP I_icon_minitimeTue May 08 2012, 14:52

@Massaen wrote:
The hex rifle DOES NOT cause ID... it removes from play which is very different in 5th ed.

My bad. You're quite right.

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