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PostSubject: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeSun May 29 2011, 17:35

Hello!

HQ 65
Haemonculi, Liquifier, Venomblade 65

Elites 510
5x Harlequin, 5 Kisses, 2x Fusion Pistol 130

5x Harlequin, 5 Kisses, 2x Fusion Pistol 130

4 Grotesques, Abberation, Liqifier, Scissorhand 175 <—- Haemi go here
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75

Troops 690
3x Wrack, Acothyst, Hexrifle 50
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75 <—- Harlequins go here

3x Wrack, Acothyst, Hexrifle 50
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75 <—- Harlequins go here

10 Wyches, Hekatrix, PW, 2x Shardnet & Impaler, Haywire Grenades 150
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, DCannon 70

10 Wyches, Hekatrix, PW, 2x Shardnet & Impaler, Haywire Grenades 150
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, DCannon 70

Fast 420
5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140

5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140

5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140

Heavy 315
Ravager 105

Ravager 105

Ravager 105

This is just random thing I've made up. I wonder if it is viable or just "wtf?".

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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeSun May 29 2011, 20:08

Local_Ork wrote:
Hello!

HQ 65
Haemonculi, Liquifier, Venomblade 65
Good simple and cheap


Elites 510
5x Harlequin, 5 Kisses, 2x Fusion Pistol 130
Pricy but fits the theme well

5x Harlequin, 5 Kisses, 2x Fusion Pistol 130

4 Grotesques, Abberation, Liqifier, Scissorhand 175 <—- Haemi go here
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75
Expensive don't really have much experience with grotesques (and seeing the price I'm not likely to) but has potential to be nasty

Troops 690
3x Wrack, Acothyst, Hexrifle 50 55pts
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75 <—- Harlequins go here

3x Wrack, Acothyst, Hexrifle 50 55pts
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, Torment Grenade Launcher, DCannon 75 <—- Harlequins go here

10 Wyches, Hekatrix, PW, 2x Shardnet & Impaler, Haywire Grenades 150
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, DCannon 70
Power weapons are ok, I'd prefer agonisers they're just more reliable


10 Wyches, Hekatrix, PW, 2x Shardnet & Impaler, Haywire Grenades 150
Raider, Enhanced Aethersails, Shock Prowl, DCannon 70

Fast 420
5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140
Dark Lances are possibly the worst scourge weapons it completely negates the biggest advantage scourges have mobility I'd suggest blasters(suicidal range) or haywire blasters reliable vehicle stunners

5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140

5x Scourge, 2x Dark Lance 140

Heavy 315
Ravager 105

Ravager 105

Ravager 105

This is just random thing I've made up. I wonder if it is viable or just "wtf?".

My comments in red

Yeah it looks playable, Have you considered beasts? it fits your circus theme and they can be lethal.

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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeSun May 29 2011, 20:53

Army Builder fail (Hex cost 10 points there).

Good input about Scourges, Jet Packers have Relentless, Jump Packers not...
I guess I'll could go with 2x2 Blasters and 2x Haywire Blasters (it certainly have it's uses (like vs. Monoliths) AND would allow me to take those Hex Rifles on Wracks), since "I throw this list at wall and pick what sticks" anyway.

Grotesques with Haemi are purely anti infantry. FNP + FC, 4xS6 I5 attacks (on charge) and lots of wounds (12 T5) hurts. Actually I don't know If Scissorhand isn't downgrade (yay for+1 attack, nay for worse wounding vs T4), however Mindphase Gauntlet seems like ultimate tarpit... and I would have 5 points.


Don't know if Beasts are way to go, I need at least something to open tanks on turn 1 and this list is so tight on Lances...

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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeMon May 30 2011, 06:25

Beasts could fit your anti-tank roll.

5 Kymera, 4 razorwings, 3 beastmasters, I think weights in about 156 pts. You could put a Fiend in, but really, I've found this is a pretty optimal setup.

20 str 4 attacks on the charge, 24 str3 rending attacks on the charge. They are garunteed 19" turn 1, so if you are in the minimum distance setup these are assaulting turn 1. If you go first, all those attacks are auto hit against rear armour. Biggest issue is, 6s on the pen roll all around.

Granted, if you catch a moving tank, it's likely 6s to hit, and then 6s on the pen.

The bonus is they are monsters in anti-infantry assault. The only thing I've really "lost" to was genestealers, but I assumed a loss going in, and was tying them up and cause damage.

I feel ya about the anti-tank roles, I'm just not finding that good unit with the loss of the old double lance sniper squads in the last book No God they were so easily ignored, but soooo good and cheap.

This new book has too many good things I want to put in, all disoriented by more than 5 viable selections in the whole book.
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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeMon May 30 2011, 08:58

Put lances on your vehicles whenever possible.

The harlies should be riding vemons with an additional splinter cannon.

Drop the wyches to 8's

Lose the wych waapon upgrades and the grenade launchers on the vehicles. Never take power weapons on hakatrixes ithr take the agoniser or the venom blade.

Lose the alcothyst upgrade on the wracks

put haywie blaster on the scourges

Los the venom blade on the haemonculi


That saves you 165pts

Get 2 liquifier haemonculi and put them with the wyches. They synergise amazingly see below.

Gat haywires on the wyches. Sorts your anti tank problem and gives you loads to in game options.

That costs 152 pts.

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Why wyches love haemonculi.

1. The wyches get A token. This means that you are only 1 away from the golden furious charge token. It also measn that you nednt fear your raider exploding. In short FNP wyches are great.

2. Haemo doest fleet? Fine, he never moves with the wyches. He ither stays in th raider or he jumps out into cover. Either way his job is to terrify marins of all stripes with his liquesfier attack.

3. In 2/3 missions you dont really care of he lives or dies. This means that he has done his job as soon as he has been deployed
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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2011, 18:36

As a general tip, if you are going up against Eldar, keep your grots unit as far away from the Farseer as humanly possible, Mind War will tear them to shreds.
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PostSubject: Re: 2K Clowns + Grotesque list   2K Clowns + Grotesque list I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 06 2011, 15:15

Torpedo Vegas wrote:
As a general tip, if you are going up against Eldar, keep your grots unit as far away from the Farseer as humanly possible, Mind War will tear them to shreds.

Not really - that's what - one Grot a Turn at most from Mind War? I'll take that risk. If my opponent wants to use Mind War, that means he's on foot, right where I want him to be...

As for the list itself - those Harlies are going to be punked with ease, unless you consider using a Shadowseer. If you'd planned on hopping them inside a vehicle turn 1, you'd better hope you get first turn, or else they're most certainly going to bite the dust.

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