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PostSubject: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 18:06

So tomorrow I have a big game, 2500 points of DE and 2500 points of most likely Marines against 5000 points of Necrons. I can expect legions of Warriors, flayed ones, destroyers, doomsday barges, lychguards, crypteks, monoliths, deathmarks and probs the Nightbringer. And by legions of warriors I mean legions.. litterally 100's of them. I will be using 40+ Warriors, 30+ Wyches all in transports, Venoms, 2x Ravagers, Talos's, 12 Reavers, and 5 Scourges, don't know what my ally will be using but hopefully something to hold objectives! Just looking for some things to watch out for, dirty little tricks etc, good ways to overcome them- think I can out manoeuvres them but havn't played new necrons yet and I have heard some nasty stories about them...
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 18:51

5000 Points?
Oh... crap.

I would build army of *just-won't-die* Warriors in Arks for that points OqO drool

As weird that may sound, play shooting game with them. Don't get me wrong, Wyches are good but if Your marine ally (preferably Sang Angels) would like to assault them first... 2+ FNP actually may survive their shooting after winning combat.

Oh and try to kill any Tesla Destructors first, they just murder DE mech (like, seriously, one shot may kill several Riders).

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 19:00

Cheers, i've heard about the tesla things, sound nasty! The guy will either be using his Howling Griffons (Vanilla marines but look awesome) which have a lot of assault marines or his assault termie + Ravenwing army again which is pretty assaulty. I'm also seriously hoping I can get the right Combat Drug, +1 Strength would be much more useful!

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 19:13

At 2,500 points how much leeway do you even have available to you (and are you restricted to force org)?

I would tend to advise gunline and Night Shields if you really want to custom build versus him.

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 19:35

If he brings the stormlord, just full reserve and try to go second.
Scarabs with spiders can be very nasty, I would advise getting rid of the spiders to stop them breeding more scarabs.
Do not underestimate the speed necrons now have, their transports and scythes can all move 12", the scythes have arial assault as well so those destructors have an effective 36" range, they should be one of your priority targets, twin linked S7 hurts, a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 19:36

Yeah you can fit it in normal organisation- (were agreeing on normal organisation and treating the Necrons as 2 2500 armies) I am thinking about using all the warriors (in raiders with NS) and wittling them down from afar before releasing a Webway portal and pouring wyches on to them... in theory scratch Hopefully my marine ally will help pack a punch! We did something similar to this before but against GK, and he did nothing and left it to me- hopefully he will play aggro

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17 2011, 22:47

What about a Duke list instead of a WWP list?

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 19 2011, 12:18

Well that game can only be described as an unmitigated disaster! I went first but could only deploy in board quarters so it was pretty crowded.

First round of shooting destroyed a doomsday barge, then penetrated both monoliths 3 times... rolled a 1 for each damage table fml. The webway portal opened up 8" from there main line, The wyches that accompanied the Archon tried to fleet into their front ranks, bear in mind only needed a 2" fleet to reach them, rolled a 1. All 40 warriors shot into the front lines of warriors, inflicting 5 wounds from 60+ shots. All but 1 model saved. Venom managed to kill 1 Scarab from 12 shots + Kabalites inside. Scourges managed to kill 3 of them selves on the bank of a river apparently. Marines did nothing.

Necrons Then destroyed the remaining Wyches and then shot into the Archon, whose Shadowfield worked, 0 times ended up taking 2 wounds. 3 Raiders were destroyed and 25+ Warriors killed in the explosion that followed. Scourges penetrated the monolith, and rolled a 1 for damage results again. Marines killed 2 Warriors... my two warriors from a very stray scatter dice. 30+ Wyches emerged from the webway portal, needed 2+ to fleet into assault, both normal wych squads rolled a 1" while the Bloodbrides moved 6" and into assault with the other HQ. The Ravager managed to penetrate the monolith 3 times, then rolled three 1's on the damage table AGAIN. The 12 reaver jetbikes then failed 10 of their 3++ turbo boost saves and the rest legged it. The Archon and the marine command squad assaulted the main Necron lord, The Archon killed with every single attack, then when in base contact with the lord rolled triple 6 on his leadership, turned around and then killed all the marine command squad before being killed by the Lord. WTF. The Bloodbrides destroyed the other HQ unit and prepared to assault the monolith. Marines, did nothing. And the venom blew up spectacularly killing all crew members.

The bloodbrides were then all sucked up into the monolith- no idea this could happen- 9/10 failed their strength test. The remaining models all failed their cover saves except for the remaining Ravager. The Scourges were killed and the remaining warriors shot. The Ravager then blew up a monolith before being wrecked by a glancing hit. Worked out that I only made 12 saves that game, the rest failed. Not to blame the dice, but that was ridiculous. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 19 2011, 15:12

Nightshields are great against Necrons because all of their Telsa weapons are only 24" range.

Don't park vehicles near a group of warriors because they can still eat into it with Guass weapons.

If he uses the Stormlord with Flayed One then they will be dcing in the middle of you army and not scattering so that would be fun.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 21 2011, 07:10

@Grub wrote:
Well that game can only be described as an unmitigated disaster! I went first but could only deploy in board quarters so it was pretty crowded.

First round of shooting destroyed a doomsday barge, then penetrated both monoliths 3 times... rolled a 1 for each damage table fml. The webway portal opened up 8" from there main line, The wyches that accompanied the Archon tried to fleet into their front ranks, bear in mind only needed a 2" fleet to reach them, rolled a 1. All 40 warriors shot into the front lines of warriors, inflicting 5 wounds from 60+ shots. All but 1 model saved. Venom managed to kill 1 Scarab from 12 shots + Kabalites inside. Scourges managed to kill 3 of them selves on the bank of a river apparently. Marines did nothing.

Necrons Then destroyed the remaining Wyches and then shot into the Archon, whose Shadowfield worked, 0 times ended up taking 2 wounds. 3 Raiders were destroyed and 25+ Warriors killed in the explosion that followed. Scourges penetrated the monolith, and rolled a 1 for damage results again. Marines killed 2 Warriors... my two warriors from a very stray scatter dice. 30+ Wyches emerged from the webway portal, needed 2+ to fleet into assault, both normal wych squads rolled a 1" while the Bloodbrides moved 6" and into assault with the other HQ. The Ravager managed to penetrate the monolith 3 times, then rolled three 1's on the damage table AGAIN. The 12 reaver jetbikes then failed 10 of their 3++ turbo boost saves and the rest legged it. The Archon and the marine command squad assaulted the main Necron lord, The Archon killed with every single attack, then when in base contact with the lord rolled triple 6 on his leadership, turned around and then killed all the marine command squad before being killed by the Lord. WTF. The Bloodbrides destroyed the other HQ unit and prepared to assault the monolith. Marines, did nothing. And the venom blew up spectacularly killing all crew members.

The bloodbrides were then all sucked up into the monolith- no idea this could happen- 9/10 failed their strength test. The remaining models all failed their cover saves except for the remaining Ravager. The Scourges were killed and the remaining warriors shot. The Ravager then blew up a monolith before being wrecked by a glancing hit. Worked out that I only made 12 saves that game, the rest failed. Not to blame the dice, but that was ridiculous. Mad

Two things:

Your dice hate you. Destroy any you have remaining, acquire replacements. Keep a horribly disfigured original somewhere handy as a warning.

Also, that's just terrible luck. Nothing we could advise would have changed that outcome. Hope he'll be cool trying that game again in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 21 2011, 12:21

Haha cheers! Still nice to see the necrons updated. Thing is this sort of thing has happened before with my eldar, so they mounted 4 dice in a scenery type diorama, all 1's with a Dire Avenger with its hands on its head. We tend to use it as my objective marker!

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 30 2011, 16:51

I concur with cactusman, your dice may or may not be cursed. Had the same problem in my first tourney using DE though. Tempted to make my unlucky dice into pain tokens, what could be more painful?

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PostSubject: Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them   URGENT HELP NEEDED-Necrons, 5000 points of them I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 30 2011, 18:17

The Dice God is crueler than even Khaine himself. Still a nice write-up, though.

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