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Blind_Baku
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PostSubject: Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List   Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List I_icon_minitimeSat Jul 09 2022, 19:57

Long story short i played Dark Eldar an age ago, then got fed up with some of the ways GW took the good from us and handed it to everyone, and generally with Matt Ward, and life for complicated. So i cashed out of plasti-crack... But like any addict it calls to me, and a family member is looking at finally getting back in, so here I am.

I'm honestly torn trying to find the best, most economical, first steps in and find 4 of the combat patrols very tempting (Tau, Necron, Eldar, and Dark Eldar) and in ages past this forum was great place for honest feedback.

Here drafts for 1cp box then either going with an additional CP or switching it up for cheap (dollar cost) coven units

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [27 PL, 3CP, 500pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [3CP]: 1. Combat Patrol (0-50 Total PL / 0-500 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Open

Obsession: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose: Flawless Workmanship

+ HQ +

Archon [5 PL, 90pts]: Ancient Evil, As Detachment (Kabal), Blast Pistol, Overlord, Venom Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Obsidian Rose): Splintered Genius

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 100pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 7x Kabalite Warrior: 7x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Demiklaives

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [6 PL, 115pts]: As Detachment, Disintegrator Cannon, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter racks

Raider [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment, Disintegrator Cannon, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

++ Total: [27 PL, 3CP, 500pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

2 combat Patrol boxes:

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [39 PL, 6CP, 710pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Open

Obsession: Kabal of the Black Heart: Thirst for Power

Raiding Forces - CP Refund

+ HQ +

Archon [5 PL, 85pts]: Ancient Evil, As Detachment (Kabal), Overlord, Splinter Pistol, Venom Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Black Heart): Splintered Genius

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 100pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 7x Kabalite Warrior: 7x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [8 PL, 180pts]
. 9x Incubi: 9x Klaive
. Klaivex: Demiklaives

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [8 PL, 130pts]: As Detachment (Kabal), 3x Dark Lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [6 PL, 110pts]: As Detachment, Disintegrator Cannon, Splinter racks

Raider [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment, Dark Lance

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [19 PL, -1CP, 288pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost

Obsession: Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue: The Serpent's Kiss

Raiding Forces - CP Refund

+ Stratagems +

Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 70pts]: As Detachment (Kabal), Overlord, Power sword, Splinter Pistol

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [9 PL, 108pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 8x Kabalite Warrior: 8x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [6 PL, 110pts]: As Detachment, Disintegrator Cannon, Splinter racks

++ Total: [58 PL, 5CP, 998pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Finally one combat Patrol, one "coven" army box (16 wracks, Haemonculus, Talos/Chronos @$95 msrp)

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [35 PL, 6CP, 655pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: Open

Obsession: Kabal of the Obsidian Rose: Flawless Workmanship

Raiding Forces - CP Refund

+ HQ +

Archon [5 PL, 90pts]: Ancient Evil, As Detachment (Kabal), Blast Pistol, Overlord, Venom Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Obsidian Rose): Splintered Genius

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 7x Kabalite Warrior: 7x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Demiklaives

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [8 PL, 135pts]: As Detachment (Kabal), 3x Dark Lance, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [6 PL, 115pts]: As Detachment, Disintegrator Cannon, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter racks

Raider [6 PL, 120pts]: As Detachment, Chain-snares, Disintegrator Cannon, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Shock Prow

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [23 PL, -1CP, 343pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost

Obsession: The Coven of Twelve: Butchers of Flesh

Raiding Forces - CP Refund

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, -1CP, 90pts]: As Detachment (Coven), Master Regenerist, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, The Helm of Spite
. Alchemical Maestro (Twelve): Alchemical Maestro

+ Troops +

Wracks [12 PL, 148pts]: As Detachment (Coven)
. Acothyst: Liquifier Gun, Wrack Blade
. Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Ossefactor
. Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Ossefactor
. 13x Wracks: 13x Wrack Blade

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment (Coven)
. Talos: Talos Gauntlet, Talos ichor injector
. . Two heat lances

++ Total: [58 PL, 5CP, 998pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

I know that's a huge wall of text, but I'm still trying to feel out the new game and narrow down which army to go with. That said I've always been a raider spam fan, and just the aesthetic for Drukhari since the new models (coven excluded, just not my thing).

Thank you for any help
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PostSubject: Re: Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List   Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 10 2022, 10:20

First things first: Welcome back to 40k and to our bright dark side. cheers cheers

Well, the thing with two combat patrols for two different Kabal detachments is this:
Its illegal. You cannot use 2 different Kabals in one game.
A small hint from me: Use a Djinnblade for your Archon and a Warlordtrait.
And I would use Darklances instead of Splintercannons. Maybe upgrade the Kabalites to trueborn.
1DL and 2 Blasters with +6" range, always hitting on 2+ are great.

Adding Coven is great. The Haemonculus is a bit of strange HQ. He sucks in combat. But thats all right.
He can do other stuff. Wracks are our most durable Troops choice and used very often.
I suggest reading a bit in our tactics section. We have complete threads for each and every one unit in the codex.
Oh, any we did a collection of different links to other pages giving advice on how to play ESE.

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PostSubject: Re: Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List   Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 10 2022, 18:48

Thank you for the reply!  I've not picked up the rule book yet so i was guessing at some mechanics.  I'll go back to the drawing board with the list ideas.

Are the splinter racks on the raiders still trash then? I remember them being underwhelming in2012 but had hoped they might synergize well with the kabal
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PostSubject: Re: Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List   Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 10 2022, 23:41

Splinterracks are usually not worth their points. The most useful 'accesories' for your Raiders are:
Grizzly Trophies give -2Ld to nearby enemies.
Phantasm Grenade Launcher launch W3 attacks 2D6 vs Ld. You win = 1MW.
Chainsnares give 3 extra attacks. Unlike others, our rides like to fight close and personal.

When you get your Codex take some time to download your FAQs and Erratas.
Our rules changed quite a bit since the beginning. Mostly nerfes or downgrades.
We fell from high class S Tier to a solid A Tier. But we still have some cunning moves. And the Style... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List   Scaling Combat Patrol Kabal List I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 11 2022, 21:40

I would recomend looking on Youtube for various Drukhari tips.

In general, I prefer List #2. Some comments about it:

Trueborn are significantly better than standard Warriors. If your already taking a Master Archon, the cost is trivial. They will also want a Dark Lance, to make the most of your BS2.

If your taking a Master Archon, would highly recomend the Blast Pistol+Husk Blade/Djin Blade with Eternal Hatred. Hes a real blender with 14 attacks rerolling all hits/wounds.

Dark Lances are better than Disintegration Cannons with this style build. More than worth the cost. Other upgrades are not so valuable (maybe keep splinter racks on a Trueborn Raider).

IMO the Haemonculus doesnt really need a Relic or Warlord Trait for this list to function. You probably want to save your CP for Never Stationary (to move a Ravager/Trueborn Raider forward, shoot, then move back behind cover) and Torturers Craft (reroll all wounds in Close Combat for a Coven unit).

IMO, wracks are only good at shooting with a Dark Technomancer build. However, an Electro Corrosive Whip (double attacks) on the Acothyst is almost always worth it.

Thats my $0.02. Welcome back to the Dark City!

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