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Niurvindol
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PostSubject: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2022, 03:25

Thinking of running a RRR with Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue, let me know what y’all think



++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [115 PL, 2,000pts, 8CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Obsession: Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue: The Serpent's Kiss

+ Stratagems +

Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]

Stratagem: Prizes from the Dark City [-1CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Court of the Archon [5 PL, 70pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. Lhamean
. Sslyth
. Sslyth
. Sslyth

+ HQ +

Archon [5 PL, 90pts]: As Detachment (Kabal), Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Overlord, Splinter Pistol, The Djin Blade, Warlord
. Splintered Genius (Poisoned Tongue): Splintered Genius

Haemonculus [5 PL, 90pts, -1CP]: As Detachment (Coven), Poisoner's Ampule, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, Twisted Animator
. Alchemical Maestro (Custom): Alchemical Maestro

Succubus [5 PL, 95pts, -1CP]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Competitive Edge, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition, The Triptych Whip, Wych Cult of Strife
. Agoniser & Archite Glaive
. Show Stealer (Custom): Show Stealer

+ Troops +

Haemoxytes [8 PL, 125pts]: As Detachment (Coven)
. 7x Haemoxyte: 7x Wrack Blade
. Haemoxyte Acothyst: Electrocorrosive Whip
. Haemoxyte w/ Special Weapon: Liquifier Gun
. Haemoxyte w/ Special Weapon: Liquifier Gun

Kabalite Trueborn [8 PL, 145pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 6x Kabalite Trueborn: 6x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Heavy Weapon: Dark Lance
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Trueborn w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Trueborn Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [3 PL, 50pts]: As Detachment (Kabal)
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Wracks [6 PL, 95pts]: As Detachment (Coven)
. Acothyst: Electrocorrosive Whip
. Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Ossefactor
. Wrack w/ Special Weapon: Ossefactor
. 7x Wracks: 7x Wrack Blade

Wracks [6 PL, 85pts]: As Detachment (Coven)
. Acothyst: Electrocorrosive Whip
. 9x Wracks: 9x Wrack Blade

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

Incubi [4 PL, 90pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

Mandrakes [8 PL, 90pts]
. 5x Mandrake: 5x Baleblast, 5x Glimmersteel Blade
. Nightfiend

+ Fast Attack +

Hellions [8 PL, 170pts]: *Random x 2* (Combat Drug), Wych Cult of Strife
. Helliarch: Hellglaive
. 9x Hellion: 9x Hellglaive, 9x Splinter Pods

Reavers [9 PL, 195pts]: *Random x 2* (Combat Drug), Cluster caltrops, Grav-talon, Wych Cult of Strife
. Arena Champion: Agoniser, Splinter Rifle
. 8x Reaver: 8x Bladevanes, 8x Splinter Pistol, 8x Splinter Rifle

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [8 PL, 130pts]: As Detachment (Kabal), 3x Dark Lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment, Dark Lance

Raider [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment, Dark Lance

Raider [6 PL, 105pts]: As Detachment, Dark Lance

Venom [5 PL, 75pts]: As Detachment, Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [115 PL, 2,000pts, 8CP] ++

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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 09 2022, 11:41

I'm not sure what PT is really doing for you in this list.

By my count, you have 13 Splinter Rifles (including the double one on the Venom), 3 Shardcarbines and 1 Splinter Cannon. That... doesn't seem like a lot. Especially given that your Archon, Ravager, Raiders (plus the Blasters and Dark Lances in your Warrior units) gain non benefit from it at all, I can't help but think you'd be better off with BH or OR.

Regardless, one other point of note is that your list is currently illegal as written - you need to include at least one unit of Wyches for it to be a Realspace Raiders detachment.

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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2022, 04:44

If you're playing poison tongue, I suggest you use more kabalites. 10-man kabs preferably. With poison 3+, a metallotoxin statagem is sometime worth it, but not on a 5-man kab unit.
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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2022, 21:11

Oh, so I do need to fix that and add a group of wyches.
But am I wrong in thinking that PT adds to the wrack blades and electro corrosive whip?
I figured it was all poisoned weapons, not just splinter rounds.
With thaat, I was thinking it might make those wracks hit a bit harder in melee, while also giving a nice little shooting bonus
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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 10 2022, 23:46

Niurvindol wrote:
But am I wrong  in thinking that PT adds to the wrack blades and electro corrosive whip?
I figured it was all poisoned weapons, not just splinter rounds.
With thaat, I was thinking it might make those wracks hit a bit harder in melee, while also giving a nice little shooting bonus

I'm afraid Poison Tongue only buffs <Kabal> units.

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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 12 2022, 03:55

Soulless Samurai wrote:
Niurvindol wrote:
But am I wrong  in thinking that PT adds to the wrack blades and electro corrosive whip?
I figured it was all poisoned weapons, not just splinter rounds.
With thaat, I was thinking it might make those wracks hit a bit harder in melee, while also giving a nice little shooting bonus

I'm afraid Poison Tongue only buffs <Kabal> units.

Gotcha, for some reason I was thinking that because the entire detachment was PT the wracks would be plausible, but I see now that the coven,kabal, coven tag is t interchangeable.
Thanks for the help
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PostSubject: Re: Trying out Poison Tongue   Trying out Poison Tongue I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2022, 12:11

IMO the main reason for PT is to use their redeploy stratagem on something spicy. Archon Skari was using it with some Voidraven Bombers for a while, but would also work for Raiders filled with Incubi/HQs.

Also, there is no reason not to split this into multiple patrols. Multiple Patrols would allow your Coven stuff to have a Coven trait, etc.
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