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Kalmah
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PostSubject: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeFri May 27 2022, 19:09

Good day Fellow Archons of Commorragh (or good night....)

Here is a fun list i made for a 1000pts Haemonculus Coven incursion game.
This list is intended for fun pretzel and beer games but still needs to be functional.
Any suggestion or comment is welcome.

Drukhari 1000
Drukhari - Incursion - Eternal War ( 6CP - 1000PT - 0PT )


Drukhari Patrol Detachment ( 0CP - 1000PT )
SUB-FACTION: Experimental Torturers (Experimental Creations: +1S)
(Master Torturers: Torturer's Craft Statagem -1CP)

HQ
WARLORD: Drazhar (145)
TRAITS: Hatred Eternal

Haemonculus (90)
LORDS OF COMMORRAGH UPGRADE: Alchemical Maestro
TRAITS: Master Artisan
RELICS: The Nightmare Doll
STRATAGEMS: Tolerated Ambition

TROOPS
Wracks (115)
1x Acothyst: Hexrifle
2x Wrack: Ossefactor
7x Wrack
FAVOURED RETINUES UPGRADE: Haemoxytes

ELITES
Grotesques (175)
5x Grotesque

Incubi (90)
1x Klaivex
4x Incubus

HEAVY SUPPORT
Talos (300)
3x Talos: 2x Heat lance

DEDICATED TRANSPORT
Venom (85) Splinter cannon

STRATAGEMS
Tolerated Ambition (1CP)

Total Command Points: 1/6
Reinforcement Points: 0
Total Points: 1000/1000
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeSun May 29 2022, 12:18

I'm no expert on playing at 1k limit, what Secondaries do you go for?

Idk if the extra strength is the best use for your second half of your Obsession. Exploding 6s may do more for you
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeMon May 30 2022, 13:33

We play 1000k points game because a lot of time we play 2 vs 2 games, each with 1000pts list and usually this is really fun.

My thought for the reroll WR strat was that mathematically this would be best than hoping to roll 6s.......i don't know why but those much needed 6s are always evading me lol (lady luck is testing me a lot in my games lol).....but the exploding 6 was indeed the obsession i was hesitating.

The +1S i find it so imperative with the Macro Scalpel (when not playing with the Gauntlet/Injector) and i find it really interesting for the Grotesque who can attack at S6
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 13:18

Gotcha. 2k games I can help with Wink

Depending on your partner, it may be ideal to have some 5 man wrack squads for holding back objectives/screening/etc. Our 40 point units are very good for their cost, and many armies dont have a similar unit

No question that Master Torturers is one of the better Coven traits. For exploding 6s, remember that it increases your combat output by 1/6 all of the time. Where as the +1S will increase your combat output by 1/6 only some of the time. Of course there is more to it than my simplistic +1/6, but I think thats a reasonable way to look at it.

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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 13:55

interesting, i indeed never saw it like that for the exploding 6 vs +1S
I may have to switch some things indeed Wink

I could indeed add a little squad of 5x Wracks for objectives, thus allowing my 10 man squad to move, or simply split the 10man squad in 2 smaller ones, thus saving me some points (by removing the options and the haemoxytes) to get the Gauntlet/Injector back on my Talos unit and Using the custom Obession Master Torturer/exploding6

As always, thanks for your precious help @fisheyes
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 14:05

Uh, 2 squads, one haemoxytes, one standard wracks could be nice for they give you another Hexrifle.

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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 14:46

but no matter the size of the squad, even 2x5man squads allows me for 2x Hexrifle.
The 10man squads only allows for one additional Liquifier/Ossefactor.

@Zenotaph , in your opinion, does Haemoxyte are worth the investment? I personally love them
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 15:04

Here is the updated list:

Drukhari 1000
Drukhari - Incursion - Eternal War ( 6CP - 1000PT - 0PT )


Drukhari Patrol Detachment ( 0CP - 1000PT )
SUB-FACTION: Splinter Torturers

HQ
WARLORD: Drazhar (145)
TRAITS: Hatred Eternal

Haemonculus (90)
LORDS OF COMMORRAGH UPGRADE: Alchemical Maestro
TRAITS: Master Artisan
RELICS: The Nightmare Doll
STRATAGEMS: Tolerated Ambition

TROOPS
Wracks (50)
1x Acothyst: Hexrifle
1x Wrack: Ossefactor
3x Wrack

Wracks (50)
1x Acothyst: Hexrifle
1x Wrack: Ossefactor
3x Wrack

ELITES
Grotesques (175)
5x Grotesque

Incubi (90)
1x Klaivex
4x Incubus

HEAVY SUPPORT
Talos (315)
3x Talos: 2x Heat lance, Talos gauntlet, Talos ichor injector

DEDICATED TRANSPORT
Venom (85) Splinter cannon

STRATAGEMS
Tolerated Ambition (1CP)

Total Command Points: 1/6
Reinforcement Points: 0
Total Points: 1000/1000


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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 15:05

I almost always use Haemoxytes. They are very well worth their increased price.

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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 15:07

@zenotaph do you use them in squad of 10 or 5?
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeTue May 31 2022, 16:25

Mostly in 5 elf squads. One Ossefactor, one Hexrifle and when I have spare points an Ecw.

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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2022, 14:19

One last comment, is there any reason to keep your Talos in a big block? Are you putting buffs on them that are significant? Having multiple units in multiple places is quite nice, especially when you consider all the "overkill" shots that the multiple units tend to eat Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 01 2022, 14:44

well, knowing that i intend on using the Torturer's Craft stratagem, either on Talos or Grotesque, to have a larger sized unit can be helpful, and so far (lady luck again), rarely have i "overkilled" an enemy unit, even with squads of 3 Talos.
Note that i never tried the opposite, to have my opponent "overkill" my units.......so maybe i could give it a try

Lol sadly my past games have taught me that i can't play overconfident, as i almost always fail my attacks and when i do succeed, my opponents succeed their saves.......it's sad to be me in a Warhammer game lol
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PostSubject: Re: Haemonculus 1000pts   Haemonculus 1000pts I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 03 2022, 03:57

I generally use it on my Wracks (0CP if used on a squad of 10 or less)

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