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PostSubject: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 10 2022, 20:34

Hi I'm considering adding one of these to Warrior or Wych squads but would like to know if they are worth taking?
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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 10 2022, 23:46

If you've got the points to spare then on average you're doing about a mortal wound to a standard unit. Some match-ups I wouldn't reccomend them at all, but otherwise if you feel a little extra chip damage is warranted and can't think of anything better to use the points on, go for it

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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 11 2022, 01:51

If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).

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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 11 2022, 15:08

If you run DarkCreed+Trophies, are ok
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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 11 2022, 21:49

@Stea1k wrote:
If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).

Leadership immunity? Phantasms just do mw's

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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 12 2022, 03:58

@Sarcron wrote:
@Stea1k wrote:
If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).

Leadership immunity? Phantasms just do mw's

I just meant that you need something to drop your opponent's leadership stat to make them worth your time (grisly trophies and/or dark creed, poisoned tongue can also help). If your opponent has mechanics that mitigate or ignore leadership penalties, then their damage output tanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 12 2022, 04:39

ah righ

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PostSubject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers   Phantasm Grenade Launchers I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 16 2022, 13:41

I was thinking of using them vs Marines/Chaos Marines to possibly score an extra MW with Kabal or Wyches?
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