If you've got the points to spare then on average you're doing about a mortal wound to a standard unit. Some match-ups I wouldn't reccomend them at all, but otherwise if you feel a little extra chip damage is warranted and can't think of anything better to use the points on, go for it
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If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).
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If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).
Leadership immunity? Phantasms just do mw's
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Stea1k Hellion
Posts : 45 Join date : 2017-11-13
Subject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:58 am
Sarcron wrote:
Stea1k wrote:
If you local meta isn't heavy on leadership immunity then they are absolutely worth using. With how many things they can go on, they are basically our smite. If a lot of your opponents have leadership immunity mechanics, then they're more of a time waster, unfortunately (which is a shame because I really loved building an anti-leadership list).
Leadership immunity? Phantasms just do mw's
I just meant that you need something to drop your opponent's leadership stat to make them worth your time (grisly trophies and/or dark creed, poisoned tongue can also help). If your opponent has mechanics that mitigate or ignore leadership penalties, then their damage output tanks.
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Sarcron Sybarite
Posts : 363 Join date : 2018-11-05 Location : Studying under Mr. Rakarth Sir
Subject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:39 am
ah righ
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Jebei Hellion
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Subject: Re: Phantasm Grenade Launchers Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:41 am
I was thinking of using them vs Marines/Chaos Marines to possibly score an extra MW with Kabal or Wyches?
Azdrubael Incubi
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