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PostSubject: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 24 2021, 01:14

Hi all, if a coven unit with the splinterblades obssession rolls a 6 when attacking with an ichor injector does it count as a second hit with said weapon or does it use a different profile? If it is the latter which weapon?
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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 24 2021, 07:28

The Ichor Injector would indeed get a second hit. The Ichor Injector limits how many *attacks* you can make with it, but says nothing about how many *hits* you can score.
So a Splinterblades Talos with the Talos Ichor Injector would score 2d3 Mortal Wounds on a 6 to hit with its one attack. A nice little bonus for people who want to run Splinterblades/Master Torturers instead of the more meta Artists of the Flesh or Dark Technomancers.

By the way; The Rules Queries and Questions area would probably be better for these sorts of questions. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 24 2021, 12:53

I've never given it much thought, but as Mynamelegend said, that would be the logical conclusion per rules-as-written. Personally, I prefer the aesthetic of double macro-scalpels, but ichor injectors are pretty nuts with splinterblades.
I wonder if melee-focused Coven lists will be the focus of competitive play going forward. Wracks, Grotesques and Talos pain engines can be utterly disgusting with splinterblades/experimental creations.
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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 25 2021, 12:16

Hmm, against hordes, the chainflails could do a lot of hits. Talking Orkboyz and Gaunts here...

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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 25 2021, 13:20

@Zenotaph wrote:
Hmm, against hordes, the chainflails could do a lot of hits. Talking Orkboyz and Gaunts here...

eh, don't really like the flails, ap0 really hurts. You'd get 10 S6 attacks for 1 talos, for 3 points more you could get 36 wyches attacks (S4 or 5, and ap-1), or 15 Grots attacks (more ap, more damage, 1 less S) for exactly the same price, and comparable tankiness
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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 25 2021, 18:51

I just really love the ichore injector and the fist. It's a great combo and I think that build has the most utility for a talos. And heat lances of course

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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 25 2021, 23:24

@colinsherlow wrote:
I just really love the ichore injector and the fist. It's a great combo and I think that build has the most utility for a talos. And heat lances of course

Yeah I wouldn't even consider a different set of melee weapons. Chain flails have plentiful attacks, but the quality is poor. A single macroscalpel is a pretty bad melee weapon. It's a grotesques have the same profile bit -2S and cost 1/3rd the points. If you're facing anything with damage reduction, the Talos becomes completely  worthless in combat. Taking 2 macro-scalpels is just a bad choice. Ichor injector+scalpel costs the same and is just better, no question.


I don't like the -1 to hit for the gauntlet, but PfP mitigates that (as does an archon in Realspace Raiders). S8 is much better than S7, and damage 3 means he doesn't turn into a joke against damage reduction.



@Wrack_Enthusiast wrote:
Personally, I prefer the aesthetic of double macro-scalpels



I wouldn't worry too much about the esthetics. Most opponents will have no idea if you're WYSIWYG or not. As long as every Talos has the same gear and you're clear about what their combat profile is, nobody will worry too much.
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PostSubject: Re: Splinterblades coven trait   Splinterblades coven trait I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 28 2021, 19:30

I tend to use ichor injector and chainflails, mainly because I play against death guard a lot . There tends to be a lot of poxwalkers so I try to point the talos in their direction.
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