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PostSubject: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 18:37

Hi everyone, new to the forum! I've been picking up Drukhari again and just got the codex last week. Been trying to figure out a decent list to build towards. Definitely want a Kabal component and I think wytch cult also, maybe haemonculi later on so I can have a real space raid for bigger non cruasade games. Anyway please let me know what you think or if I've missed a trick! Thanks in advance.



++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [28 PL, 5CP, 555pts] ++


Obsession: Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue: The Serpent's Kiss


+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 75pts]: Blast Pistol, Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Overlord, The Djin Blade, Warlord

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 90pts]
. 8x Kabalite Warrior: 8x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Demiklaives

+ Fast Attack +

Scourges [5 PL, 110pts]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Drukhari Haywire Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Drukhari Haywire Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Drukhari Haywire Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Drukhari Haywire Blaster
. Solarite: Blast Pistol, Power lance

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 105pts]: Chain-snares, Dark Lance, Kabal, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter racks

Venom [4 PL, 95pts]: Chain-snares, Grisly Trophies, Kabal, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [21 PL, , 440pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Obsession: Cult of the Cursed Blade: Only The Strong Will Survive

+ HQ +

Succubus [3 PL, 60pts]: 2 - Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Agoniser & Archite Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches [6 PL, 110pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii Blade, Splinter Pistol
. 8x Wych: 8x Hekatarii Blade, 8x Plasma Grenades, 8x Splinter Pistol
. Wych w/ Shardnet and Impaler: Shardnet and Impaler

+ Fast Attack +

Hellions [7 PL, 170pts]: 1 - Adrenalight (Combat Drug)
. Helliarch: Hellglaive
. 9x Hellion: 9x Hellglaive, 9x Splinter Pods

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 100pts]: Chain-snares, Coven, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

++ Total: [49 PL, 5CP, 995pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 19:04

I admit, I never played Crusade. Its a campaign, right? So, no Master upgrades at the beginning?

For your list: I dont see the need for the haywireblasters. Standard blaster should be a better option.
And when your Solarite needs a powerweapon, well, then something went wrong.
The chainsnares on the Transports? I would use the points somewhere else.
Last thing: maybe one other wychweapon? Hydragauntlets?

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 19:17

@Zenotaph wrote:
I admit, I never played Crusade. Its a campaign, right? So, no Master upgrades at the beginning?

For your list: I dont see the need for the haywireblasters. Standard blaster should be a better option.
And when your Solarite needs a powerweapon, well, then something went wrong.
The chainsnares on the Transports? I would use the points somewhere else.
Last thing: maybe one other wychweapon? Hydragauntlets?

Thanks for the feedback first off!
Yes I believe getting the master archon is an upgrade you can get when they are more experienced.

Ah well, I wanted some sort of anti vehicle shenanigans, later realised with poisoned tongue I can just use metallotoxins in a pinch anyway.. Also I read haywires were good in terms of flexibility once youve run out of vehivles to shoot (if they last that long I guess) . So now I've 4 haywire blasters because I've an itchy online ordering finger I guess!

Yeah probably not the most lean points list I'll readily admit, since crusade is power based anyway I wasnt thinking on it overmuch. I think I like them on the venom with the archon and incubi, but probably can drop on the raider now you mention it.

Ah you know, I think I overlooked that I could take another wytch weapon or mixed it up with how they previously could take them. Re reading their entry now!
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 20:23

Blasters and/or Heatlances do great dmg on vehicles... And on everything else.
Personally, I think them the better choice. Heatlances are best used with Reavers.
Since they're not Infantry, they ignore the heavy +1 penalty for moving. With Splintermind they hit on 2+.

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 20:47

That's fair, guess I could cut my losses with a cheap and cheerful shredders or shardcarbines on the scourges. On my 2k regular play list I do plan to have 9-12 reavers packing heat lances
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 20:57

9 is a good choice. I prefer 2x6, but everybody can do as he pleases.

Cut your losses? Care to explain?

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 21:03

I may end up getting another pack to get to 12 if I in fact have only 9, 2 x 6 seems more flexible for sure. Hellions I'm not sure if I want 10 or 15, just depends on my ability to hide them from unfriendly weapons fire hahaha

Ah by that I only meant that I've already ordered extra haywire blasters for the scourges, but if they're more meh than I realised I'll just equip with them with something else and leave the haywire blasters in my bits drawer hahah, sorry that was unclear!
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 21:38

Magnetize your Scourges. Problem solved.

Wait! What? Haywireblasters are sold solo?

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 21:41

It might be time to get some even smaller magents then hahaha (I used some for Titanicus).

Well, you can get them off people who break down boxes to sell the bits, to be honest I'd nearly just buy extra scourges next time. Though they werent *toooo* pricy
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 21:45

Ah, I see. I dont buy new models, until my pile of shame decreases drastically...

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 01 2021, 21:48

ah if only I had your willpower... I say that, I'm actially doing ok, pile of shame reduced to a very small shelf probably only 20 models unpainted. Quarantine certainly helped with that!
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 09 2021, 18:34

I would second the call for Blasters on your Scourges. They are more "all purpose" than the HWB, plus are Assault so you can move/advance and still shoot. Just dont forget about your Never Stationary strat to move after they shoot. Those guys are DEAD if the enemy can draw LOS.

If you are playing Power Level, and your opoents are OK, I would recomend the Phantasm Grenade Launcher on your Sgt's. Those things can do suprising damage when they work.

Chain snares are not the worst idea. I had a lot of fun running them when the codex first released. Now I am using PGL and the Grisly Trophies, but that may change now that DT Wracks are no longer on the menu Sad

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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 09 2021, 20:45

Yeah as its power I went a bit mad with upgrades but , for sure I'm now also thinking about a 2k list to build up to where I'll have to spend points wisely!
Thanks for the feedback fisheyes! I should probably weigh the assault characteristic more heavily than the extra 2 damage from heat lances.

Still not clear if I can do a fire and fade after a reinforcement but seems probably not? Maybe missed it in faq.

Oh definitely. I'll go back and add the phantasm to sergeants as well. Will have one modeled on my archon though its sadly legend's now.

I really like the idea of Grisly Trophies helping phantasm launchers as well as incubi tormentors. Made up a new list or two today based on this so may post later when I've tweaked it!
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PostSubject: Re: First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing!   First attempt at a crusade list, help would be amazing! I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 09 2021, 21:05

Updated with new power rating of raiders taken into account. Ended up swapping out the hellions for reavers as it fit better. Will add the hellions in again when the force grows.

Also half thinking to switch to black heart rules as that re roll will probably do more for me than the boost to poison weapons.


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [3CP]: 1. Combat Patrol (0-50 Total PL / 0-500 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Obsession: Kabal of the Poisoned Tongue: The Serpent's Kiss

+ HQ +

Archon ]: Ancient Evil, Blast Pistol, Overlord, Venom Blade, Warlord

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [6 PL, 105pts]
. 6x Kabalite Warrior: 6x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Shredder
. Kabalite Warrior w/ Special Weapon: Shredder
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi []
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Demiklaives

+ Fast Attack +

Scourges]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Heat Lance
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Heat Lance
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Heat Lance
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Heat Lance
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider : Dark Lance, Kabal, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter racks

Venom Chain-snares, Grisly Trophies, Kabal, Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Patrol Detachment (Aeldari - Drukhari)] ++


Obsession: Cult of the Cursed Blade: Only The Strong Will Survive

+ HQ +

Succubus: 3 - Hypex (Combat Drug), Precision Blows, Stratagem: Tolerated Ambition
. Agoniser & Archite Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches: 3 - Hypex (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii Blade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Pistol
. 8x Wych: 8x Hekatarii Blade, 8x Plasma Grenades, 8x Splinter Pistol
. Wych w/ Shardnet and Impaler: Shardnet and Impaler

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers: 4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug), Grav-talon
. Arena Champion: Heat Lance, Power sword
. 2x Reaver: 2x Bladevanes, 2x Splinter Pistol, 2x Splinter Rifle

Reavers : 4 - Painbringer (Combat Drug), Grav-talon
. Arena Champion: Heat Lance, Power sword
. 2x Reaver: 2x Bladevanes, 2x Splinter Pistol, 2x Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Chain-snares, Dark Lance, Grisly Trophies, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Wych Cult

++ Total: [50 PL, 4CP, 1,005pts] ++

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