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fisheyes
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 20 2021, 12:45

My Haemi is converted from a Shadowseer. Those magnificent robes turned into flesh-robes real easily Wink

Anyone looking at the new Orc Trukk-Boyz? 70 pt trukk, 9 ppm boyz. Move the unit up, THEN disembark your boyz to get a move/charge (maybe advance too?).

Less durable than our boats, but faster and seems to be a pretty reliable turn 1 charge. We will need those screens and mandrakes more than ever!
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 20 2021, 13:17

@The Strange Dark One wrote:
On the other side, we have a wide range of awesome conversion possibilities. Kitbashing goes a long way too. Just take a spare helmet from the Incubi kit, replace the Huskblade with a Spear (from the Raider kit) and you got a pretty menacing HQ.

I used a Blastpistol Arm and a Helmet from the Warrior Set, the Agonizer with the twin ends from the Scourges and the normal Archon body. Its not great, but looks ok.

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 20 2021, 18:10

That second image link doesn't seem to work, but yeah he looks a bit basic. I prefer a more cenobite look if i'm being honest.

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 20 2021, 18:30

Thats what I was going for too.

The Harlie Shadow-dude has a bunch of facemasks hanging from his belt. Now they are just faces Very Happy

But its hard to get that "thin/gaunt" look right on a miniature.
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 20 2021, 19:05

@Deckard_2049 wrote:
That second image link doesn't seem to work, but yeah he looks a bit basic. I prefer a more cenobite look if i'm being honest.

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Oh I like that picture as well. There's something delightfully creepy about the way it seems to hang in the air.

Reminds me of The Gentlemen from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 13:08

I found an interesting article on Goonhammer. Especially because it is a very personal view.
Here!!

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 15:18

Ups, i almost forgot. Here is the Review of the new Ork Kodex.
Pretty nice stuff, they have. Could be very impressive on the table.

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 16:14

@Zenotaph wrote:
I found an interesting article on Goonhammer. Especially because it is a very personal view.
Here!!

As I recall, before 8th edition, ITC took a far more active role in making their own errata, since GW was very much not concerned with tournaments (or even balance, by the 2nd half of 7th ed). That all disappeared when 8th edition dropped.
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 17:18

Well, Tournament-balance isnt really my concern, either. I just want tabletop fun. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 22:02

@Zenotaph wrote:
Well, Tournament-balance isnt really my concern, either. I just want tabletop fun. Wink

More likely than not, tournament balance will contribute to fun balance. If something is broken in a fun game, it will be broken in a tourney, and vice versa.
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeYesterday at 22:50

I think, its exactly the other way around. Most broken rules, cheats and glitches were and will be found and used by tournament players.
After all, those are the ones who always search for each and every advantage they could get.

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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeToday at 05:02

@Zenotaph wrote:
I think, its exactly the other way around. Most broken rules, cheats and glitches were and will be found and used by tournament players.
After all, those are the ones who always search for each and every advantage they could get.

It depends on the situation, to be honest. If an army is just flatly too good then it tends to hit all levels of play (the 2nd Marine Codex in 8th and the Drukhari/Ad Mech books in 9th probably fit this), while if there's a very specific build or high skill floor army that is too good then it's going to be more impactful at competitive levels (e.g., Ynnari and the Knight/guard/Smash Captain list from 8th). Meanwhile there are also gatekeeper lists that can be overwhelming in casual play but mostly irrelevant to competitive (Knights).

In general, improving the overall balance of the game benefits both competitive and casual play, but beer and pretzel players are usually more forgiving of wonkiness.
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeToday at 13:21

Plus beer and pretzel players generally build lists that are more "fair" for the envirnment.

"Hey Tony, I dont realy want to play against 3 Knights, can you tone it down a bit?" That conversation cant happen in Competitive unfortunately...

I got to play my first game vs the new Orks, and they seem like a pretty decently balanced force. Was a "learning" game, so the outcome doesnt really matter (lots of learning mistakes, forgotten rules, etc).

Pretty impressed with the new Kill Rig. One of those things ate 8 lance shots without taking any damage XD (second turn those same 8 lances were able to knock down 1.5 of the Rigs). Trans-human bikers made my Tryptech Whip Succubus cry. 25ppm Squig Riders put out an amazing amount of damage.

MVP was probably the sneeky Kommandos. 5 man squad jumped into a Raider Turn 1 and knocked off 6 wounds in combat. Really didnt expect that.

Overall I think we have good tools to deal with Orks. Lances and Poison really pulled their weight. Draz+boys are still awesome. Raiders still hold up well as mobile bunkers.

Looking forward to another game with the new Orks. They play a very similar game to us, but with more Cav.
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PostSubject: Re: New Codizes and what we think about them   New Codizes and what we think about them - Page 3 I_icon_minitimeToday at 14:33

Maybe Dancers Edge and Precision Blows are the better anti fungus combo?
Could you test, how they react to Ld-Bombs, ala Dark Creed Raiders, PGLs and Tormentors?

Edit: Do you really call them Prezel? Suspect

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