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PostSubject: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 12:38

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

reavers fixed.
Razorflail Succubus left alone!

UPDATES & ERRATA
Page 61 - Agile Hunters
Change the second bullet point to:
‘If a unit with this Obsession with the Combat Drugs ability
has the Hypex ability (pg 89), add 3" to that unit’s Move
characteristic instead of 2".’
Page 62 - Diabolical Soothsayer
Change the first sentence to:
‘After this model is set up on the battlefield for the first time,
choose one of the below:’
Page 71 - Take Them Alive
Change the first sentence to:
‘If you select this objective, you score victory points at the end of
the battle round for each of the following that apply:’
Page 73 - Master Nemesine
Change this ability to:
‘Each time this Warlord makes an attack, re-roll a wound roll
of 1.’
Page 115 - Points Values, Reavers
Change the following to:
• Unit cost…………………..20 pts/model
• Blaster………....…………..+10 pts
• Cluster caltrops…………..+5 pts
• Grav-talon….....…………..+5 pts
FAQS
Q. Does the last sentence of the Animus Vitae’s ability only take
effect if the attack made with this weapon hits?
A. Yes.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 12:43

Nice they fixed the Reaver.

I wonder if the lack of change for the Succubus means they intend to errata the core rules to prevent things like this from happening everywhere...
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 12:57

@Yziel wrote:
Nice they fixed the Reaver.

I wonder if the lack of change for the Succubus means they intend to errata the core rules to prevent things like this from happening everywhere...

i hope you are right because that combo is ridiculous as crap
other than that its about as i expected
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:08

The razorflail succubus issue would be a chardon FAQ correct? It is the warlord trait that causes the issue?

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:15

Does the FAQ means that Power Swords and Heatlances are free on Reavers? Or they cant take it, since there is no cost now?

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:16

There's a few issues with it, one is the part is where people are arguing that it loops forever and the other part is redoubling attacks which is more of a core rules problem but could be fixed in Charadon if they want but would only cover this specific case so could cause similar issues in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:20

CE will almost certainly be in the Boof of Rust FAQ. Not sure why they've changed the Reavers wargear options, or more specifically, why they've changed grav talons and cluster caltrops to be exactly the same as they are already.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:21

@Azdrubael wrote:
Does the FAQ means that Power Swords and Heatlances are free on Reavers? Or they cant take it, since there is no cost now?

It only says "Change the following", so no change to anything that isn't listed (and, bizarrely, no change to half of what is listed).

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:22

@Azdrubael wrote:
Does the FAQ means that Power Swords and Heatlances are free on Reavers? Or they cant take it, since there is no cost now?

They should be able to take them still since they didn't change pg 104.

Why would the include the talons and caltrops since they didn't change?


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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 13:55

Page 62 - Diabolical Soothsayer
Change the first sentence to:
‘After this model is set up on the battlefield for the first time,
choose one of the below:’

“After” like, anytime after? Like 4turns afterwards?
It still isn’t very good, but I’ll take what I can!
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 14:02

Quote :
“After” like, anytime after? Like 4turns afterwards?

Well, this on is obvious. If your master haemunculus raise from the dead - you cant play with +1 Attack or +1 Toughness from WT.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 14:16

yeah but if he is in a transport, you dont have to choose until he is set up, right?

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 14:42

@Count Adhemar wrote:
CE will almost certainly be in the Boof of Rust FAQ. Not sure why they've changed the Reavers wargear options, or more specifically, why they've changed grav talons and cluster caltrops to be exactly the same as they are already.

Because they realised just today that the faq was supposed to go live, but nobody actually did anything. So the poor, unpayed intern had to cobble something together.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 14:56

@Skulnbonz wrote:
yeah but if he is in a transport, you dont have to choose until he is set up, right?

Yes. That's the way I read it as well.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 15:05

for my part i was already expecting the 20pts Reavers, so no surprise here, but i'm really happy the Blaster down to 10pts for them, as i like to play them in a Red Grief detachment (advance +2 / shoot / charge reroll) so i think they will still be playable in this kind of situation......otherwise i think Hellions will steal the show
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 15:12

At least they adressed the Reaver pts issue. When it comes to Razorflail Succubus and DT Liquifier Spam:
I, for myself, woudnt play it anyways. The Codex is so good, that I dont need to exploit bugs and glitches.
Sure, some smart..... think, hey, thats so clever, that for them its sign of their own genius, but I rather play it nice.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 15:29

i know i will play a DT game this week end, but i agree with you @Zenotaph (as stated, i have a sweet vengeance to take lol).
But the reminder of the families for Coven are all good to me (not in comparison to DT i know) but on their own they can do some fun and good stuff.
Dark Creed is something i really want to try, even the Coven of Twelve

The Precise Whip combo is really strong but still manageable but the Razor's Edge combo should disapear for sur
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 30 2021, 15:36

I play a fun match tomorrow. List is down below, in the Army List subsection, so pay your 2 cents, if you like.

What I am still wondering about is: the gravtalon and cluster caltrops. It just makes no sense. confused

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeSat May 01 2021, 02:35

@Yziel wrote:
@Azdrubael wrote:
Does the FAQ means that Power Swords and Heatlances are free on Reavers? Or they cant take it, since there is no cost now?

They should be able to take them still since they didn't change pg 104.

Why would the include the talons and caltrops since they didn't change?


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Maybe there are problems with them in some languages. So they specified it for everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeSat May 01 2021, 08:38

@Zenotaph wrote:
At least they adressed the Reaver pts issue. When it comes to Razorflail Succubus and DT Liquifier Spam:
I, for myself, woudnt play it anyways. The Codex is so good, that I dont need to exploit bugs and glitches.
Sure, some smart..... think, hey, thats so clever, that for them its sign of their own genius, but I rather play it nice.

Razorflail is a bug, but DT Liquefiers simply work as intended. there is no grey zone rulewise, it is straight foward clean. I wouldn't call them a bug.

It sounds more like a bug the 14 CP with Patrols.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeSat May 01 2021, 09:07

As for Take them alive, do you get maximum 4 points per battle round even if you killed several characters?

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeSat May 01 2021, 09:13

@SERAFF wrote:
As for Take them alive, do you get maximum 4 points per battle round even if you killed several characters?

Yeah, they just fixed it because previously you got 4 points per battle!

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeSat May 01 2021, 10:25

@Cerve wrote:
@Zenotaph wrote:
At least they adressed the Reaver pts issue. When it comes to Razorflail Succubus and DT Liquifier Spam:
I, for myself, woudnt play it anyways. The Codex is so good, that I dont need to exploit bugs and glitches.
Sure, some smart..... think, hey, thats so clever, that for them its sign of their own genius, but I rather play it nice.

Razorflail is a bug, but DT Liquefiers simply work as intended. there is no grey zone rulewise, it is straight foward clean. I wouldn't call them a bug.

It sounds more like a bug the 14 CP with Patrols.
I see your point. Really! But it just feels wrong to spam it. It feels like a bug abuse.
And about the 14 CP: I totally agree with you.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeMon May 03 2021, 12:49

Nice to see blasters going down to 10 points for the reaver though. I may try them out.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQ up   New FAQ up I_icon_minitimeMon May 03 2021, 13:11

@Vailex wrote:
Nice to see blasters going down to 10 points for the reaver though.  I may try them out.
I would rather go with Heatlances. 2pts of damages versus the option to fire after additional 8" at 3+.
Provided you use Splintermind. And honestly, when do you need that? 18" range plus 18" movement should cover enough ground.
I think, Heatlances are the new black to wear on Reavers. Cool

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