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PostSubject: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeSat Mar 27 2021, 21:56

As the title/descriptions suggest I'm just confused about the wych equipment options.

the datasheet says:

If this unit contains 10 or more models:

1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 hydra gauntlets.
1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 Razor Flails.
1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 Shardnet and impaler.

If this unit contains 20 models:

1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 hydra gauntlets.
1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 Razor Flails.
1 wych's splinter pistols and hekatarii blade can be replaced with 1 Shardnet and impaler.

Does this mean that:

A: up to 3 wyches per 10 can be equiped with special weapons, but all 3 need to be different.
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B: 1 Wych can be equipped with 1 of 3 special weapons per 10 models in a unit.

For both cases (A) and (B), this feels redundant and/or poorly phrased. By RAW, both sections are saying the same thing. If you wanted to take a more conservative approach, you could even argue that they both mean that only 1 wych out of any unit of 10+ gets a special weapon to replace their blade and pistol (although I doubt that that is what is intended).

I suspect that (A) is correct based on the phrasing for other units in the codex, but I'm curious if anyone has any further thoughts or information.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 28 2021, 00:28

Option A - it's not listed as 'OR' so you can do any/all of them.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 28 2021, 10:04

I agree with the Count.
There's no "or", so you get all of those as seperate options. "One can replace, AND another can replace, etc."

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 28 2021, 18:53

I had not thought about the missing 'or'. That makes more sense.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 28 2021, 19:50

I guess the intent was to make it impossible to tailor the unit to a specific role? Luckily all the options are good Very Happy

Shard net and Impaler is my favorite so far (D2 damage FTW!), what are you guys seeing?
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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 05 2021, 06:55

It feels heavy handed to me, but I suppose they may have wanted to avoid a 10 man unit of bloodbrides with x3 razor flails or impalers. That kind of output would be spicy on blade artist rolls at an additional -3 ap.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 05 2021, 13:53

@fisheyes wrote:
I guess the intent was to make it impossible to tailor the unit to a specific role? Luckily all the options are good Very Happy

Shard net and Impaler is my favorite so far (D2 damage FTW!), what are you guys seeing?

I think this was one of the more random "fit the datasheet to the content in the box" scenarios. Each box of wyches comes with 1 of each. But kabalite warriors, wracks, and scourges don't match this philosophy, though, so who knows.
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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 05 2021, 15:47

I must admit that I don't mind the Wych loadout, to me it gives them more of a gladiatorial (rather than regimented) look if there is a selection of each of the weapons....but I do accept that it's not to everyone's tastes and may be a bit of a pain in practice.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 05 2021, 16:27

Honestly, the basic weapons on them are now pretty good so long as you get to S4 with drugs/Cult abilities. Have not run any special weapons in them yet, those few spare points just seem better on Raider upgrades like Chain Snares/Grisly Trophies/PGL
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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 05 2021, 21:17

My take (has to face realspace though):

- Razorflails give you an "extra" Wych for half the points that does not take space in a transport.
- Shardnet increases the chance to keep the girls in combat, Impaler D2 is a great bonus.
- I don't mind the Knives though <shrug>.

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PostSubject: Re: Confused about Wych weapons   Confused about Wych weapons I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 06 2021, 01:44

I haven't had an opportunity to really test yet, but I'm considering only using the impalers like in 8th ed on the troops and using a razorflail on a CoS succubus (12+ attacks with precision blows sounds like fun).

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