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Denegaar
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09 2021, 21:14

In the app, Hellions are 17 and Reavers are 10. But that means nothing, maybe the dude that uploaded the points on the servers had the same PDF as we have.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09 2021, 21:42

Yeah most likely.

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 08:58

Thanks, yeah I think it too.
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Void Prince
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 16:00

@fisheyes wrote:
Honestly, if this wasnt posted on the GW website I would assume this is a hoax.

The organization is terrible, the point costs dont make sense, and the upgrades not even fall under the specific unit (Reaver upgrades).

I am thinking that both the Reaver and the Wrack entries are typos, and will get corrected in the next week. Otherwise DAMN! We are back in a powerful way...

I know of at least one Death Guard player at my local club who is very happy with the points costs (for DG) as now published. I think it is safe to say they won't be changing in the new Codex.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 16:49

About Reavers I have a feeling it is a inversion between unit cost and blaster cost.
The real cost could be 15pts.


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Denegaar
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 16:56

I think what makes most sense is what people is saying, Hellions 10 and Reavers 17. I would play both at that price.

Reavers at 10 is broken good, one of the best units in the game for sure.
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ferrusmanus
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ferrusmanus

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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 17:59

hi to all Smile
a beautiful fix for ours army
i don't undestand the cost of 1 talow with Haywire blaster..
te fax say 110 (with standard load two splinter cannons and two macro-scalpels) and propose:
Talos gauntlet +5 pts
Twin liquifier gun+15 pts

so replace the splinter cannons with Haywire blaster is a total costo of 100? (5 points less for any blaster)?

i don't get the faq for the talos O.o
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Oaka
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 18:22

According to the author's notes in the FAQ, every option that isn't listed can be treated as +0 points, and that is how it is listed in the app.
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ferrusmanus
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 18:43

ahhh ok
i have missed this entry, thanks a lot for the answer
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Archon_91
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10 2021, 21:32

This has me flashing back to reavers at the start of 8th ed ... where their points cost made them really good and people speculated it was so they could get rid of extra stock
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 11 2021, 12:04

I played a Wrack heavy list over the weekend against a reasonably hard Necron list. DAMN did those 20 man Wrack squads pull their weight (I posted the list over in the Army List section).

120 wracks doing their Black Cornucopian were able to get into the enemy lines and tie up EVERYTHING on turn 4. He was able to take out 60 of the 120 wracks by the end of the game (the CTan was really good at knocking off 2-4 from a bunch of squads to prevent having an obvious Black Cornucopian target), but they were just EVERYWHERE clogging up EVERYTHING and there is no good way to get rid of them. Gauss Reapers (Assault 2, S5, AP-2) did more work than I expected.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12 2021, 20:12

@Oaka wrote:
@Dalamar wrote:
GW app updated and all points and unit sizes have been applied as wriiten in FAQ.

That's not entirely true.  I didn't go through everything but Grotesques are 3-6 unit size in the pdf, 3-10 in the app.  Beastmasters are 40 points in the pdf, 45 in the app.

You are correct about the Beastmaster they forgot to zero out the cost of the Agonizer. but Grotesques are max 6 in the app.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12 2021, 20:56

In the latest episode of Splintermind, they were basically shouting that the points for Reavers are a mistake and to expect this mistake to be corrected in the codex.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12 2021, 20:59

@fisheyes wrote:
I played a Wrack heavy list over the weekend against a reasonably hard Necron list. DAMN did those 20 man Wrack squads pull their weight (I posted the list over in the Army List section).

120 wracks doing their Black Cornucopian were able to get into the enemy lines and tie up EVERYTHING on turn 4. He was able to take out 60 of the 120 wracks by the end of the game (the CTan was really good at knocking off 2-4 from a bunch of squads to prevent having an obvious Black Cornucopian target), but they were just EVERYWHERE clogging up EVERYTHING and there is no good way to get rid of them. Gauss Reapers (Assault 2, S5, AP-2) did more work than I expected.

I’m impressed by anyone who actually has 120 Wracks. I think this could be a legit top tier build that will be held back due to hobby constraints as I think very few actually have the models (outside of TTS) to actually play this list.
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PostSubject: Re: New FAQs   New FAQs - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 13 2021, 13:36

I had been toying with a Wrack heavy list since 9th dropped, but with the latest point cost I could no longer hold back. Honestly, Wracks would still be spammable at 10 pts each IMHO (assuming you are willing to build that many of them).

I got 15 fully ready for tournaments (painted/based), with another 20 ready for priming. I think I could do another 20, but more than that would be just painful...

Got to say, having TTS has been amazing during Covid. So many advantages to playing online (models with rules tagged to them, standardized terrain, infinite access to models, etc)
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