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Dalamar
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PostSubject: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 15:29

Here is something I'm going to try.  This is based upon the power sword change and if we get the Melta change to heat lances. By going with one mixed Patrol I give up Obsessions on the Reapers, Archon, and Warriors.  I gain more Tech in my Strats now having access to Vect and "An Esoteric kill from Afar".


++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [53 PL, -2CP, 988pts] ++

Obsession
. *Custom Coven*: Dark Technomancers, Experimental Creations

+ HQ +

Haemonculus: Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle, Master Artisan, The Helm of Spite

+ Troops +

Wracks
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [6 PL, 82pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Cronos
. Cronos: Spirit Probe, Spirit Vortex
. Cronos: Spirit Probe, Spirit Vortex

Talos
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies

Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [33 PL, -1CP, 600pts] ++

Obsession: Mixed Detachment

+ Stratagems +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Archon: Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, Warlord, Black Heart

Drazhar

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors: Black Heart
. 4x Kabalite Warrior: 4x Splinter Rifle
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

+ Heavy Support +

Reaper: Dark Creed

Reaper: Dark Creed

++ Patrol Detachment(Aeldari - Drukhari) [23 PL, 9CP, 412pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP [-2CP]

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

Obsession: Cult of the Red Grief

+ Stratagems +

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Succubus [3 PL, 60pts]: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol, Hyper-swift Reflexes, The Blood Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches: Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych: 6x Hekatarii blade, 6x Splinter Pistol
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers: 3x Grav-Talon, Painbringer (Combat Drug)
. Arena Champion: Power sword
. 6x Reaver: 6x Bladevanes, 6x Splinter pistol, 6x Splinter rifle
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance

++ Total: [109 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 17:14

Hmm, that is a legitimately interesting way to run your Kabal patrol. You retain access to AoV and get the ability to snipe out some characters for the Assassinate secondary. I would not have thought of that.

Not sure if you will be able to spare the AT fire from the Reapers for character sniping, but it does give you options.

Everything looks good. A little strange that you are running your DT wracks in squads of 6 instead of 5. Was this intentional?
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 18:04

Oops it was not. Hmm... now I have some extra points. The Incubi were in there because I had a free 80 pts. Now I can remove the Incubi, add Mandrakes for better secondary options, and add a Shredder to the Warrior squad.

+++ mixed De (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [106 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] +++

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP

Obsession
. *Custom Coven*: Dark Technomancers, Experimental Creations

+ HQ +

Haemonculus: Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle, Master Artisan, The Helm of Spite

+ Troops +

Wracks
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks: 3x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks: 3x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Cronos
. Cronos: Spirit Probe, Spirit Vortex
. Cronos: Spirit Probe, Spirit Vortex

Talos
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Twin liquifier gun
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies

Raider: Disintegrator cannon, Grisly Trophies

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP

Obsession: Mixed Detachment

+ Stratagems +

Alliance of Agony

+ HQ +

Archon: Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, Warlord, Dark Heart

Drazhar

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors Dark Heart
. 4x Kabalite Warrior: 4x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Shredder
. Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Mandrakes
. 4x Mandrake: 4x Baleblast, 4x Glimmersteel blade
. Nightfiend

+ Heavy Support +

Reaper Dark Creed

Reaper Dark Creed

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP

Fixed Combat Drug Selections

Obsession: Cult of the Red Grief

+ Stratagems +

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic)

+ HQ +

Succubus: Adrenalight (Combat Drug), Archite Glaive, Blast Pistol, Hyper-swift Reflexes, The Blood Glaive

+ Troops +

Wyches: Grave Lotus (Combat Drug)
. Hekatrix: Blast Pistol, Power sword
. 6x Wych: 6x Hekatarii blade, 6x Splinter Pistol
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

+ Fast Attack +

Reavers: 3x Grav-Talon, Painbringer (Combat Drug)
. Arena Champion: Power sword
. 6x Reaver: 6x Bladevanes, 6x Splinter pistol, 6x Splinter rifle
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance
. Reaver with special weapon (up to 1 for 3 models): Heat lance

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 19:10

I like the list. I have been debating something similar to the mixed patrol. I would probably only take 1 creed reaper, but only because I would want two dark techno reapers. But I see where you are goong with it.

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 19:19

@colinsherlow wrote:
I like the list. I have been debating something similar to the mixed patrol. I would probably only take 1 creed reaper, but only because I would want two dark techno reapers. But I see where you are goong with it.

I assume you are taking Grotesques instead of Talos in the DT Patrol to free up the Heavy slots. then one Creed Reaper in the Mixed Detachment.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 20:01

@Dalamar wrote:
@colinsherlow wrote:
I like the list. I have been debating something similar to the mixed patrol. I would probably only take 1 creed reaper, but only because I would want two dark techno reapers. But I see where you are goong with it.

I assume you are taking Grotesques instead of Talos in the DT Patrol to free up the Heavy slots. then one Creed Reaper in the Mixed Detachment.

I'd either do that or drop the cronos to fit

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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 20:13

Ive played two DT Reapers for the first time last weekend. I was surprised how much that +1 To Wound helped them.

I believe you can only use the Strat on a single Reaper, it would be a good idea to switch over (unless you are building around the Assassinate secondary, and plan on keeping the second Reaper in reserve somehow).

For my $0.02, Grots are superior to Talos. Tougher, and stronger in CC.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 22 2020, 23:08

@fisheyes wrote:
Ive played two DT Reapers for the first time last weekend. I was surprised how much that +1 To Wound helped them.

Completely agree.

@fisheyes wrote:
I believe you can only use the Strat on a single Reaper, it would be a good idea to switch over (unless you are building around the Assassinate secondary, and plan on keeping the second Reaper in reserve somehow).

You are correct about only using the strat once per turn. However redundancy is king and my opponent now has to remove 2 Reapers and 3 DT Hexrifles to remove my sniping. The second Reaper is still wounding most armored targets on 3's.

@fisheyes wrote:
For my $0.02, Grots are superior to Talos. Tougher, and stronger in CC.

I would agree if I was going pure CC. We would be using them for different things. Example: If i was going to Use Grots like I'm using the Talos. 6 LQ Grots 1 Cleaver Grot are the same points, they have less ranged output, more wounds in total, but remember I'm taking wounds myself per model. In CC the Grots will Kill an expected 3.99 Intercessors while the Talos should expect to kill 6.48 Intercessors.

Against guard or orks the grots are better. Guard: Grots kill 16.72 vs Talos 9.72. Orks: Grots 16.07 vs Talos 9.72.
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PostSubject: Re: Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts.   Alliance of Agony sort of 2000 pts. I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 23 2020, 12:33

Fair enough. I run into a lot of invulnerable saves, and that is where the Grots shine. They do have the AP-2 cleavers for the scenario where they run into something less meaty.

My Grots have been controlling middle-field for most of 9th now, and they excel that the job. Very hard to remove and can punch most things to death. Had 2 Grots nearly punch a Exocrene to death by themselves (with Torturers Craft) Very Happy

Full disclosure, I have not yet run into Intercessor Marine spam in 9th yet.
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