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PostSubject: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06 2020, 14:02

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [27 PL, 10CP, 465pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment CP [-2CP]

Detachment Type
. *Custom Coven*: Dark Technomancers

+ HQ +

Drazhar [6 PL, 105pts]

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 60pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Reaper [9 PL, 150pts]

Reaper [9 PL, 150pts]

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [47 PL, -2CP, 905pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP [-2CP]

Detachment Type: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Urien Rakarth [5 PL, 95pts]: Alliance of Agony

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 60pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [3 PL, 60pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [18 PL, 345pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [18 PL, 345pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [30 PL, 3CP, 630pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment CP

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

Raiding Force [4CP]

+ Stratagems +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 70pts]: Blast Pistol, Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Warlord, Writ of the Living Muse

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Kabalite Warrior: 4x Splinter Rifle
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Kabalite Warrior: 4x Splinter Rifle
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 160pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 160pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [104 PL, 11CP, 2,000pts] ++

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I wasn't sure if I had enough mobile objective grabbing or screening for the big guns. Those of you with more experience in 9th might be able to help me out. Do you think this might struggle against certain opponents or in certain missions?

I also wasn't sure what the other custom coven trait should be. None really seem to add anything meaningful.

Thanks 😁
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PostSubject: Re: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 06 2020, 19:52

You really should build your list with an eye on some Secondaries that you plan to achieve. Some easy ones for us involve:

-moving/deep striking into the enemy deployment zone
-setting up a transporter in the enemy deployment zone
-raising a flag on an objective
-killing certain targets (mass infantry or vehicles/monsters)

Try to get a few games of 9th and you will start to see what I mean. Building lists around 'kill stuff" is not as powerful as it used to be.

Ultimately your list looks good, with lots of mobility. Just dont let your bloodlust take over and forget to grab those sweet VPs Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07 2020, 16:07

hi similar to list i put in test this days Very Happy
i prefer two unit of 2 talos.
Not urien but a homunculus with vexator mask..is very very strong versus alpha strike unit
I will remove one unit of wrack in the prophet dethachment and one unit of kabalites and the venom

And put in the DT dethacment units of 5 wrack with 2 liquifire gun and a raider.
So in a raider you have 10 wrack and 4 liquifier gun with DT are veryy anti marine.
i put 9 in list ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07 2020, 17:38

I have only played 1 game of true 9th edition, at 1500 pts, against Nids.

My two units of 2 Taloi got wiped off the board with no problem. I think you need units of 3, so that you can spread out more and still be within Aura range for the +1T.

Thats my experience anyway, YMMV

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PostSubject: Re: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 07 2020, 18:16

I would merge the 2 units of wrack in the PoF detachment. Having access to the black cornucopian stratagem, it's useful to have a max unit to regen, if possible. You're already paying for those wracks, anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force   Dark techno, PoF and Black heart Raiding force I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08 2020, 07:52

Thanks everyone 😁

I have slight variations on the list, swapping urien for a vex homunculus but couldn't decide which I preferred. I guess it's a trade off between an effective +1 to wound on vehicles and T4 infantry vs the ability to fight first in most cases. Until I get more games in I guess I won't know which I prefer.

Your point dumpeal about the wracks is a good one. Do you think the survivability and mobility of that 10 man squad would make up for losing the ability to spread out as far (sitting on different objectives and screening the backfield) that the 2 5 man units has?

DT suicide wracks in a raider does sound very fun! I'll test that in my next game and see how it does 😁

Fisheyes, did your 2 talos units get wiped by shooting or melee?
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