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PostSubject: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 12 2020, 10:51

Hi I'm putting together my Drukhari army and have a basic idea of what I need for a 1,000 point army to start with, but I'd like some input on what obsessions or archon/Succubus attributes would work well together or what combat drugs would work with the Wyches.

I'm planning on expanding the army to 1,500 pts but I'm not sure what will add ballance to the army to give it enough anti-tank/close combat/objective holding?

Here goes...

1x Archon with Blast Pistol & Venom Blade. 89pts.

1x Drahzar. 120pts.

4x 5 Kabals. all 4x Splinter rifle, 1x Blaster. 47pts each.

4xVenom. 55 pts each.

1x Succubus with Blast pistol and Archite Glaive. 60 pts.

10 x Wyches. 1 with Blast Pistol and 3 with Hydra Gauntlets. 102 pts

1x Raider. 65 pts

1x VENOM. 55pts.(transoort for Archon or Drahzar or Succubus).

999 pts.
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 12 2020, 23:16

I'd probably say the next step is just more anti-tank, you don't have much of it there. A ravager or scourges add an extra bit of punch that you need.

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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 13 2020, 09:24

Thanks for your reply Sarcron, A Ravager choice seems sound but are Scourges worth the points? Scourges certainly look good and can move fast, pack some punch with heavy weapons... but are they tough enough?
Could Talos provide adequate anti-armour support?
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 13 2020, 11:33

A Talos can have 2 Haywire blasters. That's pretty much as anti-tank as it can get. Mind that Haywire is specifically good vs vehicles, not other kinds of armour.
However, that would require a Coven detachment, since putting a Talos with the units you mentioned so far will cost you your obsessions. And that's a big no-no. But if you add an Haemonculus and some Wracks, and use the Raiding Force, that would work.

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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Jul 13 2020, 18:07

You probably want to go Flayed Skull for your Kabal units (+3" movement for your transports, re-roll 1's for rapid fire weapons shooting from the transports, ignores cover).

You could also go Black Heart, giving your transports a 6+ FNP save and access to the Agents of Vect stratagem.

The Wych drugs should be picked based on your oponent. The main ones to look at are +1 Toughness, +1 Attach and +1 Strength.

But there is a new set of rules getting released, along with new point costs that were just leaked today/yesterday. Things are going to change a fair amount, although you have not listed anything that got hit too hard.
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 08 2020, 08:20

I've done a little reading and considered what tactic I want to use. I'm aiming to stay light but hit hard...


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [26 PL, -1CP, 495pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ Stratagems +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 65pts]: Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Splinter pistol, Warlord

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Kabalite Warrior: 4x Splinter Rifle
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

+ Dedicated Transport +

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [35 PL, 675pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Drazhar [6 PL, 105pts]

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 60pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

+ Elites +

Incubi [4 PL, 80pts]
. 4x Incubi: 4x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

+ Heavy Support +

Cronos [4 PL, 85pts]
. Cronos: Spirit Probe, Spirit Vortex

Talos [18 PL, 345pts]
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [44 PL, 830pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 80pts]: Diabolical Soothsayer, Haemonculus tools, Stinger Pistol, The Vexator Mask

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 60pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks: 4x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [18 PL, 345pts]
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [18 PL, 345pts]
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Macro-Scalpel, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

++ Total: [105 PL, -1CP, 2,000pts] ++

I could swap the Incubi for Mandrakes in the 2nd Patrol?

Any advice welcome😊
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 10 2020, 14:30

It seems like you could leverage your choice of subfactions more.

One of the main benefits of Black Heart is the WLT and the Relic. You are taking the WLT, but you may want to consider some Ravagers/Reapers re-rolling 1's to hit and wound (with the Writ relic).

This isnt "required", but something to think about. What is your plan if 2-3 Venoms get blown up turn 1 and the enemy runs away from the Taloi?
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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 10 2020, 15:15

@fisheyes wrote:
It seems like you could leverage your choice of subfactions more.

One of the main benefits of Black Heart is the WLT and the Relic. You are taking the WLT, but you may want to consider some Ravagers/Reapers re-rolling 1's to hit and wound (with the Writ relic).

This isnt "required", but something to think about. What is your plan if 2-3 Venoms get blown up turn 1 and the enemy runs away from the Taloi?

Push forward and take board control

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PostSubject: Re: My 1st list utterings.    My 1st list utterings.  I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 10 2020, 21:55

I planned to hide the Venom loaded with Incubi and use them as scalpel strikes assisted by Kabal and the massed Talos screened by Wracks or to use them as objective holders. I was thinking alone the same lines as you and thought should I loose the Venom the Talos are pretty limited on their own. I had thought to swap the none Venom-born Incubi with Mandrakes who can reserve and/or infultrate. Another idea could be Scourges?
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