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iBambam2981
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PostSubject: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 12 2020, 19:09

Hey everyone, first time poster, and new to Druhkari in general! I wanted to see if the list below is a decent 2k list, as in I will be fairly competitive. One thing to note is that my local meta and group of players doesn't really have access to forgeworld so we tend to stay away from that, so no reapers even though I know they're awesome. I also will be sticking to pure Druhkari for right now, so no Aeldari or Harlequin units just yet.

Overall, I'm hoping that this is a decent list that can at least be competitive against most armies. If there are any major no-no's definitely let me know, or any minor adjustments you guys would make let me know!


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [69 PL, 1,242pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 61pts]: Ancient Evil, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, Warlord, Writ of the Living Muse

Drazhar [6 PL, 100pts]

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 87pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior: 7x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon: Splinter Cannon
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 71pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior: 7x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [8 PL, 126pts]
. 8x Incubi: 8x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter [8 PL, 155pts]: Splinter Cannon
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons: 2x Disintegrator cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [43 PL, 758pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 81pts]: Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle

Haemonculus [5 PL, 81pts]: Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 59pts]
. Acothyst: Hexrifle, Venom Blade
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks: 3x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [3 PL, 59pts]
. Acothyst: Hexrifle, Venom Blade
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks: 3x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [3 PL, 57pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 3x Wracks: 3x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [6 PL, 98pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [6 PL, 98pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Total: [112 PL, 2,000pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 12 2020, 20:07

Fora first list looks fine.

For future games: Try tthe Kabals without Cannons, yes it gives them range, but your rifles are in range anyways and even tho it does adds some shots, its only poison shots. Its normally better to get more bodies (each cannon is almost 2 kabals worth), you'll find that 30pts. But you might end up liking the Cannons, so play the game a few times before swapping out of it. Same goes for the Venoms, if you take off the 2nd cannon it'll save your 30ps, it is only 1 or 2 shots difference, but the biggest difference is the 36" range vs 24", if you don't mind playing closer that is.

Coming from experience the Hexrifle idea is nice, but you'll most likely hitting on 4+ or even 5+ most of the time on Wracks, they really don't work well unless you have lots of them (6+). Take them off the Wracks for now. They are fine on the Haemonculus as they are 2+ BS base.


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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 12 2020, 21:43

Would you suggest putting anything on the wracks instead of the hexrifle?
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 12 2020, 23:05

@iBambam2981 wrote:
Would you suggest putting anything on the wracks instead of the hexrifle?

Nah, i like to keep them cheap.

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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 13 2020, 12:31

Why have you split your transports with half in the Kabal formation and half in the Coven?

Kabal transports will get the 6+++ FNP save, while the Coven transports will instead benefit from the +1T aura of the Haemonculus. Is that intentional?
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 13 2020, 12:37

Oh no that's not intentional, I didn't realize the transports gained those benefits as well. I'm guessing the 6+++ is more beneficial than the +1T right?
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 13 2020, 13:56

@iBambam2981 wrote:
Oh no that's not intentional, I didn't realize the transports gained those benefits as well. I'm guessing the 6+++ is more beneficial than the +1T right?

Depends who you are fighting against honestly. Against armies with lots of Str5-6 shooting then toughness is better, with Str4 or Str7+ then FnP is better.

Also if you are Coven transport you can not use Lightning Fast reflects.

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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 13 2020, 14:44

I'll be playing against a lot of Marine equivalent, a pretty strong Ork player, and a smattering of Xenos in my play group. But the vast majority of people play marines or chaos marines of some form.
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 13 2020, 19:51

Just keep in mind that you can only have 1 transport per unit. So you are currently forced to take at least 1 transport in the Coven Detachment.

Personally I think the 6+++ is easier to remember/use in casual/semi-competitive play. At the higher end, T6 may come into play more.
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 14 2020, 13:21

So without posting a completely new topic. I revamped my list and I think overall this one will be a bit more of a solid list. Warriors in Venoms to take objectives, Archon and Drazhar with Incubi in a raider. 9 wracks and Haemonculus in a raider, and Urien on foot with 10 wracks and 2 Talos escorting him wherever they need to be. With Scourges dropping in to hopefully nuke a unit or HQ. Thoughts?


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [76 PL, -2CP, 1,351pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ Stratagems +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 61pts]: Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, Warlord, Writ of the Living Muse

Drazhar [6 PL, 100pts]

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior: 3x Splinter Rifle
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Elites +

Incubi [8 PL, 112pts]
. 7x Incubi: 7x Klaive
. Klaivex: Klaive

+ Fast Attack +

Scourges [5 PL, 110pts]
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Blaster
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Shredder
. Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon: Shredder
. Solarite: Shardcarbine

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [37 PL, 649pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Type: Prophets of Flesh

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 81pts]: Electrocorrosive whip, Hexrifle, The Vexator Mask

Urien Rakarth [5 PL, 90pts]: Alliance of Agony

+ Troops +

Wracks [5 PL, 97pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 8x Wracks: 8x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [5 PL, 97pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 8x Wracks: 8x Haemonculus Tools

Wracks [5 PL, 88pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. Wrack with special weapon (up to 1 for 5 models): Ossefactor
. 7x Wracks: 7x Haemonculus Tools

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [12 PL, 196pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

++ Total: [113 PL, -2CP, 2,000pts] ++
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 15 2020, 12:38

Looking better. You have enough units to take all those transports as Black Heart now.

Overall, this looks like a proper Dark Eldar list. Now comes the hard part, finding an opponent to get some practice against!

Minor comment, the Warlord Trait - Eternal Hatred does not synergize well with the Relic - Writ of the Living Muse. The Warlord really isnt benefiting much with the Warlord Trait, since he is already rerolling 1s due to the Writ. Also, because he has the Writ, you will want to keep him back to buff your Ravager/Transport castle. I would recomend switching it to Labyrinthine Cunning, so that you get some benefit while he sits in the back field (this is one of the reasons to take Black Heart). Drazhar has a lot of CC potential, he will more than make up for it (make sure you research how to make the most out of his double attack, ie double pile in/consolidate moves)
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 15 2020, 15:07

Fisheyes,

Thanks for sharing this information as it's useful for a complete noob Smile But if you could elaborate further on Drazhar it would be appreciated as well. My game experience is exactly zero at this point so speak as you would to a small animal <lol>
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 15 2020, 15:31

Thank you fisheyes! You have been extremely helpful to me. I definitely appreciate it! I also finally got my hands on the Phoenix Rising rules as well so now I'm rethinking my kabal and Coven obsessions. Although I still feel Blackheart and Prophets of Flesh are still really strong.
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 16 2020, 20:46

@grimoire, I would recomend looking at youtube. Lots of good things in there.

Basically this is what happens when you charge (for any unit)

1- declare charge
2- suffer overwatch
3- roll dice, move unit

then the complicated bit starts

4- activate a unit. It now moves 3" towards the closest enemy unit
5- attack with the unit in CC
6- after the unit attacks, move 3" towards the closest enemy unit.

Drazhar gets to do steps 4-6 twice. Lets him move quite far, and stops the enemy from dying in front of him (preventing his attacks because nobody is within 1" to attack).

Enjoy
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PostSubject: Re: First Druhkari 2k List   First Druhkari 2k List I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 17 2020, 00:23

Thanks !
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