tournament ITC list without ravagers?

Another tournament is approaching in the Segmentun Argentus (in BUENOS AIRES) reading comments on the impressions of the chapter in the forum and assembling this list. The metagame in Argentina is always a few months out of date compared to Europe or North America. Here you can see many IKs, Eldars flayers and some imperial soups. The idea is to try to control the table with all the transports and squads of talos, although I feel somewhat strange without the 27 shots of the ravagers.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [14 PL, -1CP, 286pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 71 pts]: Blast Pistol, Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, The Djin Blade, Warlord

Archon [4 PL, 74 pts]: Blaster, Venom Blade

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [76 PL, -1CP, 1,213pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Type
. *Custom Coven*: Dark Technomancers, Obsessive Collectors

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 75pts]: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle

Haemonculus [5 PL, 75pts]: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle, Master Artisan, The Helm of Spite

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [12 PL, 196pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [12 PL, 196pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [6 PL, 98pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 83pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [90 PL, -2CP, 1,529pts] ++

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I don't think ravagers are absolutely required anymore, a combination of them going up pts and more importantly Dark Technomancers/Test of Skill for various builds makes raiders more appealing. Still good for sure, but I think other builds like this are worth considering.

On this list overall I think it's good. The one main thing I'd change is drop obsessive collectors, that trait was nerfed hard by the faq for Phoenix Rising. Instead I'd consider Master of Mutagens, that trait will help reduce the number of mortal wounds your DT venoms take, and the 6s that auto wound are also 2 damage when you overcharge which is nice. MoM also affects wracks so there's that plus. The other one I like is experimental creations, sure it doesn't work on shooting anymore but s8 talos without Urien is nice.

Yes good observations.I thing experimental creations is a better choice for talos ,and the wraks would gain +1 to wound in melee.
This is a Variant for the list ,the points cost is prechapter for the battlescribe.



++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [28 PL, -1CP, 566pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Alliance of Agony [-1CP]

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 86pts]: Blast Pistol, Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Warlord, Writ of the Living Muse

Archon [4 PL, 89pts]: Blaster, Venom Blade

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [60 PL, -1CP, 955pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Type
. *Custom Coven*: Dark Technomancers,Experimental Creations.

Prizes from the Dark City (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 75pts]: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle

Haemonculus [5 PL, 75pts]: Haemonculus tools, Hexrifle, Master Artisan, The Helm of Spite

+ Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

+ Heavy Support +

Talos [12 PL, 196pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

Talos [12 PL, 196pts]
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster
. Talos: Chain-Flails, Macro-Scalpel
. . Two Haywire Blasters: 2x Haywire blaster

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 83pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Phantasm Grenade Launcher

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Total: [88 PL, -2CP, 1,521pts] ++

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