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CptMetal
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PostSubject: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 23 2019, 16:58

A friend of mine absolutely dominates the local meta with his Primaris at 1000 points.
Venoms were utterly useless last battle so now I want to try the dissie spam.

What about this:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [56 PL, 1,006pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon []: Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol, The Helm of Spite, Warlord

Archon []: Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +
4x
Kabalite Warriors []
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle
+ Heavy Support +

Ravager []: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter []: Twin splinter rifle
. 2 Disintegrator Cannons

+ Dedicated Transport +

5x
Raider []: Disintegrator cannon

++ Total: [56 PL, 1,006pts] ++

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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 23 2019, 21:30

Made a similar list, but swapped Raiders for Ravagers. They are way more efficient at spamming Disintegrators if that's the plan.

Flayed Skull of course
Archon w/Huskblade,PGL-79
Archon w/Huskblade,PGL-79
Warriors w/Shredder-38
Warriors w/Shredder-38
Warriors w/Shredder-38
Raider w/Diss,PGL-83
Ravager w/Diss x3-125
Ravager w/Diss x3-125
Ravager w/Diss x3-125
Razorwing w/Diss x2,TLSR-135
Razorwing w/Diss x2,TLSR-135

Put 2 squads in one Raider and the 3rd can hold a home objective. I'd run Djin Blade and buy Helm of Spite for the second when necessary.
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 24 2019, 13:13

Interesting. But dark eldar without transport seems wrong to me.
And I don't own 3 Ravagers.
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 09:21

Sorry but rule of 2 applies to 1000pts. So only 2 Ravagers max anyway. But more warriors in raiders, and the jet jetfighter will make up for that.

Just 15 kabalites seems light, I'd try for 20 - 30 in squads as you please. Raiders with just 5 warriors in seems like a waste personally. I agree that on foot warriors seems wrong. 3 or 4 raiders fully manned seems like a better option to me. If you wanted your Archons in their own boat I'd bring a single venom. That -1 helps, and they can draw fire from your real threats.
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 10:50

If it helps this is a list I am taking to a 1000 point event next week
Flayed skull batallion
Archon hatred eternal and djin blade
Archon with venom blade
4x5 kabalites with blasters 1 squad has a phantasm
3 venoms with dual rifles
1 dissie raider
2 dissie ravagers
1 dissie razorwing

If you are short on Ravagers and are looking at raiders to carry the dissies have you got a haemonculi you could use to get access to dark technomancy?
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 12:01

Since when is rule of 2 a thing? I don't think that's real. If he's worried about Primaris specifically which is what he asked, and he said his Venoms were basically useless, why bring more poison in the form of warriors? And if you're going to spam raiders they should 100% be DT which means needing some coven. If 1000 pts of Primaris wants to focus on killing warriors instead of 3 Ravagers and 2 Razorwing they're dead anyways. Especially if you deploy right and can get 2 turns worth of reroll 1s on the Razorwings.
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 12:06

It's definitely real:

To fight the Primaris Organised-Events
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 12:14

Never knew that, I was wrong. I don't play much <1000. I'd still run 2 Ravagers, 2 Razorwing. And I don't think more warriors is the best way to fill the extra points for Primaris killing
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 17:49

That's okay, it only comes up in smaller games. I agree that 2 Ravagers and 2 Razorwings would be nice, assuming the OP has those models. Swap the illegal 3rd ravager for a second raider and some more kabalites and the list KabaliteSon suggested is pretty nice.

However if Cpt Metal does not, then more raider squads can be nice. Yes poison isn't amazing against primaris, but more warriors to hold objectives is always a good thing. I wouldn't try to get jnto 12" rapid fire with them though, keep a "safe" distance. Besides once you have maxed out ravagers and razorwings , raiders are your only option if you want more dissies.
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 19:17

I got this as my list atm:
++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [56 PL, 999pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Type: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon []: Famed Savagery, Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol, The Helm of Spite, Warlord

Archon []: Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +
4x
Kabalite Warriors []
. 5x Kabalite Warrior+ Blaster
.

+ Elites +

Incubi []
. 7x Incubi + 1x Klaivex

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager []: 3x Disintegrator cannon

+ Dedicated Transport 
5x
[b]Raider []: Disintegrator cannon

++ Total: [56 PL, 999pts] ++

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Alternatively I can swap the Incubbi for a Razorwing Jetfighter.
I own two of those but only one Ravager...
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PostSubject: Re: To fight the Primaris   To fight the Primaris I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 25 2019, 22:14

Nice! I do like your list. Although personally I'd drop 2 raiders. Have 2 with 2x5 warriors in and the third raider with incubi and Archons. Then use the spare points to include the razorwing. (Fyi small points increase for the razorwing revealed on the community website, but you should still have the points to fit it in.) This way you would still have the same number of dissies, and then some missiles and extra Splinter fire on top.
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