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Kabalite Warrior
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PostSubject: Returning 500pts - Sense Check   Returning 500pts - Sense Check I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 23 2019, 22:21

Hi there,

I'm thinking of dusting off my models & have a few 500pt vs 500pt & 500pt + 500pt vs 1000pt games coming up with a few friends, both new & experienced.

Will be teaming or facing either Ultramarines, Cadians, Space Wolves or Death Guard & while I sort of knew how our army played, things seemed to have changed a bunch, so just wanted to sense check my list.

Flayed Skull 500pt Patrol Detachment - 3CP

Archon, Warlord, Soulthirst, Veil, Blast Pistol & Huskblade (86)
Warriors x 4, Syb. with Agoniser (34)
2 x Disi. Ravagers (250)
2 x Venoms (130)

Seems pretty straight forward, but Archon sits with Ravagers for re-rolls, wrapped by the Warriors while the Disi's focus the biggest threats. Venoms handle anti-Infantry or can be sacrificed to delay oncoming Assault types or screen to deny board space or grab late game objectives etc.

Why I'm posting:

  • Is 2 Ravagers @ 500 a bit 'that guy'?
  • If I start embarked, will 4 drops get me 1st turn & I'm not missing any disadvantages in doing so? Archon can just get out to give reroll aura etc
  • The meta has changed & I've received great advice here before

Thanks for reading & any advice or trolling that follows Smile
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dumpeal
Hekatrix
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PostSubject: Re: Returning 500pts - Sense Check   Returning 500pts - Sense Check I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 23 2019, 22:41

You may be "that guy" or not. It depend on how friendly you aim to play. Keep in mind imperial guards can field a baneblade for 500pts. You should talk with your friends about what you expect of those games.
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Hellion
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PostSubject: Re: Returning 500pts - Sense Check   Returning 500pts - Sense Check I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 24 2019, 11:48

Agree with @dumpeal on the first point - depends on how friendly the matches are. If it's just a case of 'run whatever you want', then don't worry about it - I've seen people bring Knights in 500pt games, so I don't think 2 Ravagers will make you that guy.

Also, on the amount of drops, it's worth noting that if you're playing one of the missions from Chapter Approved '18, the person/people who doesn't pick their deployment zone deploys their ENTIRE army first - so number of drops is no longer an issue in this scenario.
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PostSubject: Re: Returning 500pts - Sense Check   Returning 500pts - Sense Check I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 07 2019, 15:42

Hi !

I am also returning into w40k, from a 15 years break. I have found my old dark eldar army under my parent's house bed this summer Very Happy
Anyway, work + kids = not much time and 500 pts vs 500 pts battles feels great so far. I love the skirmish feeling, and to be able to try a lot of fun combinations, rather than putting everything you got in a 3hrs+ game Wink
I have enouph models to make a few 500 pts detachments. I have mostly played these 2 lists , both fun :

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [30 PL, 499pts]
Kabal of the Flayed Skull

HQ [8 PL, 172pts]
- Warlord Archon [4 PL, 86pts]
Selections: Blast Pistol [10pts], Famed Savagery, Huskblade [6pts], The Djin Blade, Warlord
- Archon [4 PL, 86pts]
Selections: Blast Pistol [10pts], Huskblade [6pts]

Troops [12 PL, 170pts]
- Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 64pts]
7x Kabalite Warrior [42pts]
1x Kabalite warrior with Heavy Weapon [16pts] Splinter Cannon [10pts]
1x Sybarite [6pts] Splinter Rifle

- Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 53pts]
4x Kabalite Warrior [24pts]
1x Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [23pts] Blaster [17pts]
1x Sybarite [6pts] Splinter Rifle

- Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 53pts]
4x Kabalite Warrior [24pts]
1x Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [23pts] Blaster [17pts]
1x Sybarite [6pts] Splinter Rifle

Dedicated Transport [10 PL, 166pts]
- Raider [5 PL, 83pts] Chain Snares [2pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Shock Prow [1pts]
- Raider [5 PL, 83pts] Chain Snares [2pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

Expensive blasters, but sooo useful Smile lots of CP for rerolls and Fire&fade
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Another 500 pts list with incubi and ravager :

Patrol Detachment [32 PL, 500pts] Kabal of the Flayed Skull

HQ [4 PL, 86pts]
- Archon [4 PL, 86pts]
Selections: Blast Pistol [10pts], Huskblade [6pts], Soulthirst, The Djin Blade, Warlord

Troops [8 PL, 107pts]
- Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 54pts]
8x Kabalite Warrior [48pts]
Sybarite [6pts] Splinter Rifle

- Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 53pts]
4x Kabalite Warrior [24pts]
Unit: Kabalite Warrior, Weapon: Splinter rifle
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [23pts] Blaster [17pts]
Sybarite [6pts] Splinter Rifle

Elites [8 PL, 96pts]
- Incubi [8 PL, 96pts]
5x Incubi [80pts]
1x Klaivex [16pts]


Heavy Support [7 PL, 126pts]
- Ravager [7 PL, 126pts] Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Disintegrator cannon [15pts], Shock Prow [1pts]

Dedicated Transport [5 PL, 85pts]
- Raider [5 PL, 85pts] Selections: Dark Lance [20pts]

Made a mistake, should have taken a desintegrator on the raider Very Happy

It's fun, some shooting power, nice incubis, the ravager is always a good selection ^^

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I am now building several coven 500 pts lists
One with 2 or 3 talos, and the other with grotesques. I happen to have 9 old grotesque models ^^

All the best to your games !
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