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HedonusVex
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PostSubject: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 03:19

Got a tournament coming up, expecting about a 50/50 mix of tanks and infantry, maybe a little heavier on the infantry.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [43 PL, 867pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, The Djin Blade, Warlord (Archon)

Archon [4 PL, 74pts]: Agoniser, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 95pts]: Dark Lance, Splinter Racks

Raider [5 PL, 95pts]: Dark Lance, Splinter Racks

Raider [5 PL, 95pts]: Dark Lance, Splinter Racks

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

Venom [4 PL, 75pts]: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [34 PL, 631pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Flyer +

Voidraven [9 PL, 165pts]: Two void lances, Voidraven Missiles

++ Total: [77 PL, 1498pts] ++

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I think the list speaks for itself as far as gameplan. Archons from flayed skull go character hunting/general annoyances, black heart archon babysits ravagers, who shoot things. Kabalites move up to control the board and slay enemy troops/monsters (expecting demon princes) and voidraven will hopefully bomb a blob or elite unit.

Fire analysis:

Assuming venoms are at 18"

48 splinter shots at 3+
6 blasters at 3+
6 dark laces at 3+ (3 shots rr 1s)
18 dissies at 3+
2 void laces at 3+
Missiles
Void mine
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HedonusVex
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 03:25

I'm considering taking out the voidraven and a venom and turning a 10 man Kabalite squad into 2x5 so I can fit in a farseer and two Warlocks all on bikes.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 03:29

I'm not found of splinter rack. They're only effective 1/6th of the time, for 10 points. Not worth it.
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HedonusVex
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 05:16

I've been getting lucky with them, but if I drop them and maybe the second cannon from each venom I could maybe fit another 5 Kabalites. Worth it?
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Crixalis
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 17:00

@HedonusVex wrote:
I've been getting lucky with them, but if I drop them and maybe the second cannon from each venom I could maybe fit another 5 Kabalites. Worth it?

Yes. Very much worth it.

Also, the Djinn Blade/Hatred Eternal Archon is a monster in combat, for sure. Super fun and (finally) actually good on the field. If you're trying to be as competitive as possible though, the Black Heart Archon wins every time.

But I assume you already knew that and wanted to play something different, which I support 100%. Other than that the list has a lot of good things going for it and it'll definitely serve you well.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 17:09

I've actually done a bit more upgrade shaving, possibly too much, and have squeezed a second 5 man Kabalites squad in


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [47 PL, 898pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Flayed Skull

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Hatred Eternal, Huskblade, Splinter pistol, The Djin Blade, Warlord (Archon)

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Splinter pistol

+ Troops +

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [4 PL, 94pts]
. 7x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

Kabalite Warriors [2 PL, 47pts]
. 3x Kabalite Warrior
. Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster
. Sybarite: Splinter Rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Raider [5 PL, 80pts]: Disintegrator cannon

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

Venom [4 PL, 65pts]: Splinter Cannon, Twin splinter rifle

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [34 PL, 602pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Black Heart

+ HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 72pts]: Splinter pistol, Venom Blade

+ Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

+ Flyer +

Voidraven [9 PL, 155pts]: Two void lances

++ Total: [81 PL, 1500pts] ++

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Crixalis
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 17:20

Hardly too much. Disintegrator Ravagers are better/more versatile anyway and bare bones has always been the Dark Eldar way. I might recommend with the loss of the missiles that you go for the scythes instead, so you can still threaten a few different targets with the Raven. Aside from that it's a rock solid list.

Be sure to wrap your Archons in some Raiders/Venoms as you move up. The re-roll 1's to hit aura might not be useful with Flayed Skull but if your opponent strays too close you can unload a venom and charge it in to tank the over watch, then watch you Archons tear things apart. They never see it coming Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 17:29

Awesome thanks for the feedback
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MrStimpson
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25 2018, 23:25

You may want to consider contacting your TO to see if they're enforcing the new datasheet restrictions. If they are, your may need to cut a Ravager.
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Crixalis
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26 2018, 06:06

@MrStimpson Did I miss something? You can’t use the same data sheet MORE than three times, two is fine. If I understood correctly.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback for 1.5k tournament list    Feedback for 1.5k tournament list  I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 27 2018, 01:44

@Crixalis

My bad! I thought sub-2k was 2 datasheets, but it's sub-1001 points. Carry on!

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