First List

Hellion Posts : 48 Join date : 2017-09-27

So I don't have my codex yet (hoping to sell off my GK this weekend to fund my DE project) so the points could be way off but I am hoping this comes out to roughly ~1000ish points.

Black heart battalion
archon - huskblade, blast pistol, warlord (cunning)
archon - huskblade, blast pistol, helm of spite (can't remember if it's obsession specific?)
2x5 kabalites w/a blaster
10 kabalites w/2 blasters & dark lance
2 raiders w/dark lance & splinter racks
2 venoms with double cannons

red grief patrol
succubus w/relic archite glaive or whip, blast pistol, adrenalight
6 reavers w/2 blasters or heat lances (?) and 2 grav talons taking hypex

So the idea is the reavers tie up the enemy with a huge turn 1 charge (maybe some leman russes or other artillery) and then I get to work shooting and kiting my opponent just out of optimal range until he commits his forces, when the succubus comes out swinging.

Think it'll work and is a decent starting spot? To build this I'm going to get 2 2016 start collecting boxes, 2 venoms and a succubus, along with the codex and datacards. Then when I get the newer 2018 start collecting box I'll have some wyches and more jetbikes to throw in.

Thanks in advance!

Hekatrix Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06

The patrol detachment is illegal, you need one troop unit and you have none. If you're going to grab venoms and a succubus, may as well grab one of the new start collecting boxes. That way you can either run 3 units of 3 reavers to make a red grief outrider detachment, or you can use the wyches from the new start collecting box to make a patrol.

As far as the rest of the list goes, looks alright for a starting list based on the start collecting boxes.

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Hellion Posts : 48 Join date : 2017-09-27

Thanks boss, totally forgot about that. Also, I didn't include the 2 venoms I am going to purchase in the original list. So I guess just drop the red grief stuff for now, until I can get a full outrider or patrol?

Makes sense.

Subject: Re: First List Thu Apr 12 2018, 20:43

hi, why you play 2 raiders if you have only 1 troop of 10 kabalites?

Hellion Posts : 48 Join date : 2017-09-27

I guess if I do it that way I could pack both raiders full of kabalites and give each archon his own boat, eh?

Subject: Re: First List Thu Apr 12 2018, 20:55

maybe i misunderstand but 1 raider has 10 models capacity.
you have 10 kabalites, 2 archons and 2 raiders
how do you think to fill the 2 raiders??

Hellion Posts : 48 Join date : 2017-09-27

I wrote down 2 units of 5 and a unit of 10, making 20 total.

Subject: Re: First List Thu Apr 12 2018, 22:58

@Castellan Alaric wrote:: I wrote down 2 units of 5 and a unit of 10, making 20 total.

but the 5-aelf units will be in the venoms? or are they for HQ's?

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Hekatrix Posts : 1157 Join date : 2015-12-06

If you're going to take wyches, I'd say put 10 in a raider, put 10 kabalites in a raider and then you can use the venoms to transport the rest of the warriors.

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Hellion Posts : 48 Join date : 2017-09-27

Ya the idea was 2 units of 5 with one blaster in a venom, and then a unit of 10 kabalite with 2 blasters and a dark lance in a raider. However, I was saying that it would make more sense to make 2 units of 10 with 2 blasters and a dark lance, and pack the raiders up, leaving a venom for each archon. At least as a starting point.

I plan to get another kabalite start collecting and then the new wych start collecting, so I'll have 3 of each transport, 12 reavers, etc.