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Azdrubael
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PostSubject: 1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns.   1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns. I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 16 2011, 12:36

I am collecting Dark Eldar army, but from my previous army (Craftworld Eldar) i have enough Clowns, so i decided to make a list with a basis on them in the Dark Eldar codex.

So, basically, what does Dark Eldar codex have to offer regarding harlequins?Both codex have same prices and stats for clowns, but the dark eldar offers thing that naturally associates with harlies.Webway portal.

Webway portal it is then. Means mostly foot army, little to none vechicles.So for 1500 list i started with 2 units of clowns full except troup master. And 2 haemunculi in one HQ slot (i suppose clowns like to jest at poor fellas with delusions of godhood) with 2 webway portals. 2+ portals i decided was vital, cause they provide some flexibility.Better than that - they can set their portals completely risk free, under hallucinations of Veil of Tears.


Now troops.Not much choice here - winner is obviously Helions and their pimpdaddy Baron Sathonyx, Hell Father, one who sees all. I choose them mostly when i remembered how i used rangers with Harlies to get stealth cover in plain field.Since Baron does provide stealth for his unit they were some natural choice.WIth Haemies unit can start on the board right away having 3+ cover save and fnp.Not bad for Dark Eldar.

Or

Unit can start inside the webway and be ready to assault as soon as it came from reserve.Or deepstrike where nessesary.

Both Harlies and Hellions have hit'n'run.Both provide some threat to vechicles. (harlies more ofcoarce). Helions can be good delivery system for Harlequin assault.


But more important - there will be targets i cannot crack, especially if things went wrong or its just Helions and not clowns in the assault. Lots of S4 (and even S5 with Pain Tokens, or even S6 with drugs) is of coarse good and fine but sometimes marines just make all of their armor saves, or they are fnp blood angles and as the saying goes Red Marinez Livez Longaah. So in this case we can hit'n'run with both units and have good clamped D6 consolidated bunch of enemies.

Now what to do with them.

Mostly 2 options. Either to have Razorwing Jetfighters (nightshielded one) to feed them some S6 Large Blasts and generally serve a vechicle supresser during game.You can even take 2+ poison, pinning rockets to continue your theme of annoying pining.Or serve as a reserve dweller if there is Hydra Flak on the board.Which there is in my parts.Thats more expensive of 2 options.

Second option - Talos Pain Engines from webway portals, armed with Twin Linked Heat Lances and Twin Linked Liquifier(S4 AP D6 Template).Liquifiers provide much needed anti 3+ templates, and in 1/3 cases in ignores fnp as well being AP2.That is best flamer in the game, hands down.They also have some parody of melta and are Mostruos Creatures, which means more antitech. There is also choice to take 24" Haywire Blaster instead of 18" S6 Melta Lance, same price.

Dont know what to chose here.Monstuos Creatures have of coarse suffers a lot in this edition, but there is a limit how bad you can be , when you are monster.Still 2D6 on Armor Penetration.

Main problems here will be grey knights, who can just kill monsters with force weapons and normal dark eldar venom spam.


I dicided to start with Talos first.

So here is list itself.Give me some thoughts on it, please.Maybe i need more troops.Maybe one less monster and even more troops.Thanks for your time, if you read all this down here.



1500 Pts - Dark Eldar Roster



Elite: Harlequin Troupe (9#, 250 pts)
7 Harlequin Troupe, 250 pts ((pp.48-49 & 63 Eldar); Harlequins Kiss x7; Fusion Pistol x2; Shuriken Pistol x5; Hallucinogen Grenades)
1 Death Jester
1 Shadowseer



Elite: Harlequin Troupe (9#, 250 pts)
7 Harlequin Troupe, 250 pts ((pp.48-49 & 63 Eldar); Harlequins Kiss x7; Fusion Pistol x2; Shuriken Pistol x5; Hallucinogen Grenades)
1 Death Jester
1 Shadowseer


HQ: Haemonculus (2#, 180 pts)
1 Haemonculus, 180 pts ((C:DE, pg. 85); Webway Portal x1)
1 Haemonculus (Liquifier Gun x1; Webway Portal x1)



HQ: Baron Sathonyx (1#, 105 pts)
1 Baron Sathonyx, 105 pts ((C:DE, pg. 48); Splinter Pod x1)



Troops: Hellion (12#, 207 pts)
11 Hellion, 207 pts ((C:DE, pg. 90); Hellglaive; Splinter Pod x11)
1 Helliarch (Splinter Pod x1; Splinter Pistol; Stunclaw)



Troops: Hellion (10#, 160 pts)
10 Hellion, 160 pts ((C:DE, pg. 90); Hellglaive; Splinter Pod x10)



Heavy Support: Talos Pain Engine (1#, 115 pts)
1 Talos Pain Engine, 115 pts ((C:DE, pg. 92); TL Liquifier Gun; TL Heat Lance)



Heavy Support: Talos Pain Engine (1#, 115 pts)
1 Talos Pain Engine, 115 pts ((C:DE, pg. 92); TL Liquifier Gun; TL Heat Lance)



Heavy Support: Talos Pain Engine (1#, 115 pts)
1 Talos Pain Engine, 115 pts ((C:DE, pg. 92); TL Liquifier Gun; TL Heat Lance)

EDITED - Please do not post the entire list of wargear and special rules for each character/unit, that's IP infringment (see the forum rules, #6). Just their points total and any weapon variations or upgrades. Thank you. Gobsmakked.
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns.   1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns. I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 17 2011, 12:57

How do you plan on delivering the portals if your haemonculus are both on foot?
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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns.   1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns. I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 17 2011, 14:03

I plan to deploy Haemy with Harlequins middle ground, naturally, under protection of Veil of Tears.Depends on the table 1 portal or 2 at once.


I dont really need upclose portal , Helions and Heatlances/liquifiers provide enough threat range to start at the middle.Second portal is backbone for bad reserve rolls.

Actually the more i think about it, the more Helions i want...now where to cut points.Maybe Jesters, since i dont really do any shooting damage.


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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns.   1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns. I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 12 2012, 02:45

I was thinking of something like this today. I wanted all my CC units using hit and run

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PostSubject: Re: 1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns.   1500 Webway. Clowns , Flying Clowns and Sadistic Torturer Clowns. I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 12 2012, 08:13

I decided to left this ida to 6th edition.

If the rulebook for 6th i read was correct, reserves will be far more reliable and most importantly can be assembled is groups to enter simulteniously. Also Helions will be much more mobilie (and sadly far squishier).

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