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PostSubject: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 14:39

Has anyone faced this list before:

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I just got threatened that by someone complaining of DL Spam

Seriously? 54 Lascannons?

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 15:11

interesting.....

it's technically legal, but i wouldn't fancy actually trying to play with it.
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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 15:26

Um....I uh....WOW. Shocked Can't say I've ever played against anything like that.
At least that player didn't complain about Raider spam, right?

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 15:43

Why would he, he's all but guaranteed 6 vehicle kills a turn. SOOOOO ANGRY WITH WARD!


I only noticed it because I was looking at making a word bearers army, and trololololing the fanboys by using the GK codex (to use henchmen as lesser daemons and dreadnights as greater)

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 16:09

If you guys are custom building lists to fight each other this thing isn't even a threat.

3 Razorwings w. Dissies kept in reserve.
6 Wych squads.
Baron w. something - heck, Hellions would actually be the strongest.
Everything else to taste (Bloodbrides strike me as more win)

Turn 1 you flat out towards him with everything. If he set up like an idiot you go ahead and assault some of the silly monkeys. In assault they have no chance at all vs. Wyches.
6 squads of monkeys fire at you - 6 targets - 4.5 hits -> 3 penetrates -> 1.5 pens get through -> 75% chance per Raider that it's wrecked so you'll loose 4.5 Raiders (4-5, not bad)

Turn 2

1-2 Razorwings come in = 1-2 dead monkey squads.
Even presuming half of the wrecked Raiders pinned the Wyches inside them (they won't) you should be able to manage about, oh, 4 assaults without even trying - and Wyches will eat monkey brain without trouble in assault.
Thats not even talking about what happens when the Baron rolls in with Hellions to kill stuff.
That's presuming you field Raiders and not Venoms, which will allow you to kill 3-4 Monkeys per Venom - which could wipe out 1-2 squads on Turn 1 without much effort.

The monkey list is fun.
The monkey list is not competitive - especially not if you guys are custom building to fight each other.

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11 2011, 20:30

exactly why i wouldn't want to play WITH it.

i'd happily play AGAINST it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 07:26

At 2k this list is rubbish. The monkies fail at assault even against guard. It also can only shoot 6 units per turn and they are only BS3.

They also don't make use of the jokearo customisation rule.

9 shots per squad is 4.5 hits, 3.75 pens, 1.87 wrecks or better vs AV10 open topped.

That is nasty for sure... but deploy from a WWP with a beast pack, hellions or reaver and charge... they last about 2 seconds!

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 09:16

fenrisnorth wrote:
Has anyone faced this list before:

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I just got threatened that by someone complaining of DL Spam

Seriously? 54 Lascannons?

Just curious - what exactly was he complaining about, what were you running against him?
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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 10:57

Standard Raiderspam w/blasterborn and tri-ravs, you know, a fairly cookie-cutter Dark Eldar list. It was even worse beforewe found the FAQ that clarified that "Lord of Formosa" removes that "Does not take up a force org slot. it was scarier when it was 18 units of 3.

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 12:48

Yep, pre-FAQ Ward books can scare people (I liked NNN x 3 servitors, that was serious bull...) thanks to poorly comprehended rules...

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 18:36

Wow, that was a solid land speed record for getting to the Ward hate Wink

Yes, I agree with Massaen, the monkeys have so many gaping holes in them as a list it's almost silly. (though I think they could actually take most guard units in assault...we might need to mathammer that one a bit Wink )

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 18:59

With that many monkey units doesn't he get +6 on the roll telling you to roll twice ignoring 6 so he gets 6 and then 6/6 which is ignored?

also just blitz him.

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 12 2011, 19:15

I will go on record to say that Mandrakes are capable of beating up monkeys in h2h combat...as long as they avoid the flamers.

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 14 2011, 15:19

You mean we found something mandrakes can do. OH HAPPY DAY!!!! *Dances around alittle bit*

On a more serious note... I wouldnt be afraid of monkies... I would be more afraid of 5 pt Stormbolter toating warriors... (or is it 6... might be 6pts... but still thats alota dead raiders Razz )

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 14 2011, 17:23

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You mean we found something mandrakes can do. OH HAPPY DAY!!!! *Dances around alittle bit*

On a more serious note... I wouldnt be afraid of monkies... I would be more afraid of 5 pt Stormbolter toating warriors... (or is it 6... might be 6pts... but still thats alota dead raiders Razz )

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 15 2011, 00:32

Lol DE anthem, I want to see that list at 5000 point vs IG parking lots

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 17 2011, 08:35

Sure they could shoot down your tanks, but your actual troops would make monkey-kebabs out of them. Each lascannon shot can only kill one model at a time, so you'll just run up through cover knife 'em.

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PostSubject: Re: That can't be right...   That can't be right... I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 17 2011, 14:44

Monkeys also have flamers though. It's not a total laugh riot if you're on foot and marching at them. Our big advantage is forcing them to shoot down transports or be assaulted by those popping out of wrecks - or flame troops after shooting down transports, and be assaulted by those in vehicles.

It's the spamming of assault that eats monkey face. Specifically fast moving assault.

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