New needing advice

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

Hi all could use some advice on what models I may need to get and what weapons and such to give them, below is what I have gotten over time.

Archon x3 (I made a female version with spare pieces)

Succubus

Sslyths x2

Kalablite Warriors x4

Wychs x2

Reavers x9

Hellions x10

Venoms x4

Raiders x3

Scourges x4

Incubi x1

Talos

Voidraven bomber

Ravager x2

Thats what I have at the moment, some assembled, some still in their boxes and I may want to get some coven units as well depending on what advice and such people give me.

Hekatrix Posts : 1392 Join date : 2015-06-21

Mandrakes are pretty good right now by rules and the models are damn cool.

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

I had a friend telling me they were good, but since I'm not very good with the Mathammer? is that what people use or say? and that their webstore exclusive and resign puts me off abit, since with resign I have a habbit of gluing myself together with super glue then the actual models XD

Hekatrix Posts : 1392 Join date : 2015-06-21

@angelrei wrote:: I had a friend telling me they were good, but since I'm not very good with the Mathammer? is that what people use or say? and that their webstore exclusive and resign puts me off abit, since with resign I have a habbit of gluing myself together with super glue then the actual models XD

Their shooting combines good rate of fire, decent Strength, an AP value, and a chance at mortal wounds.

Their melee is an impressive number of attacks per model at a good strength for DE.

Durability wise, they combine an invulnerable save with a penalty for the enemy to hit them.

Mobility wise, they are one of our two remaining deep strike units.

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

Okay, sounds like I'll need to get myself some the next time I can go in and order them, know if I should grab any coven units? and other talos?.

Hekatrix Posts : 1041 Join date : 2017-01-26

Pretty much what fueldrop said.
They are mathhammer wise not the best unit against anything, but they do reasonably well against most things. Which means they make a good allrounder to finish a list with.
And they are our cheap deepstrike option. Which combines well with their alround function to really disrupt an enemy battle line.

The thing with coven:
The big things right now are not that great, so you might wish to hold of untill the codex comes out.
Grots are slightly overpriced while losing their durability with the sheer amount of multiwound weapons going around.
Wracks are not great but also not that bad. Depends a bit on your enemy, but a squad might work quite well in an cc focussed dark eldar army.
The heamy is quite good, buffing our transports is nice, and without a heamy all other coven units fall short.

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

Okay then I'll grab a unit when I can as they do sound nice to have and for coven I wanted them as the 7th edition book they had sounded really good yet I couldn't get one in time, so I'll do as you say and wait for the codex to come out.

For now it just what I have as I listed above and what to equip units with, most of the warriors I've made have blasters and splinter cannons, scourges two units I made have blasters, splinter cannons and haywire blasters and wondering if I should get other talos or would my two ravagers or voidraven be better heavy support choices? as I plan to just play with power points for now.

Subject: Re: New needing advice Mon Aug 21 2017, 14:21

Are the numbers you're giving unit or model numbers? If you only have 2 wyches and 4 warriors you need more troops. I'd also recommend more Incubi, and Raiders for everyone.

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

The Numbers are the number of units I have of them. Wish GW still did the Kabalite Skysplinter.
How many warriors, Wyches, Incubi and raiders I should get?.

Incubi Posts : 1844 Join date : 2017-07-05

The skysplinter got removed ?
Isn't it a repackaging thing, like for everything else ?

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Wych Posts : 733 Join date : 2017-03-10

Quote :: The skysplinter got removed ?
Isn't it a repackaging thing, like for everything else ?

It just says "Sold out Online" here in the states. I'd certainly hope it survives.

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Subject: Re: New needing advice Mon Aug 21 2017, 20:44

I mean, it looks like you have a really solid force already. Easily enough for 1k - 1.5k pts.

Everything other than Talos is in a decent place right now.

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Subject: Re: New needing advice Tue Aug 22 2017, 03:46

How many models do you have in each of these units? min squads?

Hellion Posts : 31 Join date : 2017-08-21

For Warriors I have four Units of 10 each has Splinter Cannon and Blaster and then I have a 5th that was made to have 4 Dark Lances, 4 Shredders and two splinter rifles. Wychs I have two units of 10 and 6 wychs I put onto bases from the venoms.
I have 4 scourges, in groups of 5, three has Blaster, Splinter Cannon and Haywire Blasters and rest shard carbines and the 4th Unit has 4 Dark lances.
I have a total of 9 reaver models and a unit of 10 hellions and a unit of 5 Incubi.