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Mr Believer
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PostSubject: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 19:57

This is one that came up yesterday - my wyches were doing a sterling job tarpitting a defiler, and one of them was carrying a shardnet and impaler. Does the minus one attack affect dreadnoughts? Because they fight like infantry, but my friend thought it didn't make sense that a wych could entangle one of the weapons when it's a super strong machine. However, it fights like infantry.

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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 20:17

It fights like infantry - and more importantly is an enemy model with an Attack characteristic.

As long as the Wych with Shardnet is in base to base with him - he's an enemy model (note, not enemy infantry, or all enemy models except vehicles - model), in base contact - thus he fights with 1 less attack (to a minimum of 1).

The only triggers are;
enemy
model
base contact with model that has the shardnet
has an attack characteristic that can be lowered by one.

Dreads are affected - and indeed this is one of the single best uses for the nets.
We can also entangle Trygons, living Avatars made of magma, and Star Gods - we can certainly entangle a piddly Walker.
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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 20:30

^Absolutely^ In the previous edition I believe that they couldn't do it to a vehicle. In the new codex the shardnet is absolutely as stated by Thor above. They RULE against Dreads/Defilers. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 21:40

Heh heh heh, I can see me fielding more of those! Especially since hydra gauntlets have let me down previously and half of the effectiveness of Razorflails is negated by rolling Painbringer for drugs Rolling Eyes Thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 22:50

Previously it was anything with Str 6 or higher (so not powerfists :-() thankfully they are awesome now.
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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 22 2011, 23:48

I'm actually a little shocked that they made them that good in the new codex. Too bad everyone at the LFGS plays mech lists with absolutely no dreads or defilers Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25 2011, 23:00

I love how a little net can slow down a defiler Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 26 2011, 03:37

@Todo13 wrote:
I love how a little net can slow down a defiler Smile

Don't forget the pointy stick too. Imagine if you played against a titan...even dumber. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 26 2011, 04:11

@Evil Space Elves wrote:
@Todo13 wrote:
I love how a little net can slow down a defiler Smile

Don't forget the pointy stick too. Imagine if you played against a titan...even dumber awesomer! tongue
Fixed that for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Shardnet and Impaler   Shardnet and Impaler I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 26 2011, 05:02

@Thor665 wrote:
@Evil Space Elves wrote:
@Todo13 wrote:
I love how a little net can slow down a defiler Smile

Don't forget the pointy stick too. Imagine if you played against a titan...even dumber awesomer! tongue
Fixed that for you.

Wow, I was trying to empathize with my opponent's pain instead of savoring their suffering Evil or Very Mad . Thanks for saving me! I owe you a pain point or two Thor.
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