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PostSubject: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 01:56

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So I got this from the Eldar Group on facebook. These are questions that were asked to FW through an email and they answered back. It isn't official by any means but I thought I should share.

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Eldar Corsairs

Reckless Abandon - does the Reckless Abandon rule apply after firing overwatch?

Corsair Prince - Under the Malefic demonology section, it says you can increase the Prince Mastery Level to three yet he is only Mastery level one and can only pay points to increase one level?

Void Dreamer - Are the psychic powers randomly generated or does the controlling player select them?

Collector of Ancient Treasures - Can this also be extended to the Iyanden Codex?

If a Corsair Prince with the Spirit Stone of An’athlan from Codex Eldar casts a psychic power using this stone, as he doesn't have Rune Armour, does any invulnerable save generated offered by a shadow field or power field etc still apply?

Dissonance Cannons -Are they really only one shot (yes, someone actually asked this….)

Falcon and Venom The text states that each must have six or five occupants respectively. Does this mean that a HQ character that joins a unit cannot join that unit in one of these Dedicated Transports?

Can Malevolent Corsairs take either vehicle as Dedicated Transport?

Can a Prince, Baron or Void Dreamer take a Dedicated Transport?

Shadow Spectres

The Spectre Holosuit cover saves stacks with Stealth and Shrouded but Irillyth’s does not, is this deliberate?

Can the Shadow Spectres be taken as part of an Aspect Host?

The Exarch has only one wound, is this correct? All other Exarch’s have two?

Can Irilliyth be included as Living Legend in an Eldar Warhost (like all the other Phoenix Lords)?

Farseer Bel-Annath

Can Bel-Annath access any of the Remnants of Glory?

Can Bel-Annath be included as a Living Legend in an Eldar Warhost (Like Eldrad)?

Skathach Wraith Knight

The Movement is listed as 12” and a D6 scatter - this seems odd, is it correct? We were advised it might be 18”?

If a Skathach leaves combat, does it have to return the way it started the game, i.e. Deep Strike etc?

Can the Skathach be taken as part of the Wraith Host in Codex Eldar Craftworlds?

Wraith seer

Can this be used as part of the Wraith Host in Codex Eldar Craftworlds?

Can is be used as part of the Iyanden supplement?

Lynx

The Lynx Pulsar has two different profiles. The corsair version has 48” range for both firing modes whilst the Craftworld version has 24 for the 3 shot mode. Which is correct?

Warp Hunter

The Warp Hunter profile is different for the Corsair entry to the Craftworld entry. Corsair version says a 6 is downgraded to a 5, the Craftworld version says its minus 1 on all to wound/damage rolls. Which is correct?

Wasp Phalanx

It says if the Wasps Deep Strike they benefit from the formation except they cannot Deep Strike because they do not the this ability in their profile? Should it say that they gain the Deep Strike rule?

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Having received your questions and queries from Alan Bligh I’ve put together some brief answers to them, hopefully this will help to keep you all enjoying the book!

Reckless Abandon – A unit with the Reckless Abandon special rule may not use this rule to make an additional move after making an Overwatch attack as part of the Charge Sub-phase.

Corsair Prince – A Corsair Prince that has selected the Wielder of Profane Powers option under the First Prince special rule may select additional levels of Psychic mastery at +20 points per level, to a maximum of Mastery Level 3.

Collector of Ancient Treasures – This option under the First Prince special rule only allows players to choose from the Codexes listed, not from any sub-codexes linked to them. So in this case items from Codex Iyanden may not be selected.

Dissonance Cannon – Dissonance cannons are not One shot only, they may be fired in every Shooting Phase. They are however a Heavy 1 weapon, so when fired roll 1 dice per weapon fired.

Falcons and Venoms – A Transport vehicle may only carry a number of models equal to its Transport Capacity, in some cases this will mean that some units, when joined by an Independent Character, will not be able to embark on these vehicles unless the character leaves the unit.

Corsair Malevolent Bands – This unit may not select a Dedicated Transport, these disturbing and suicidal individuals are seldom granted such expensive equipment by their overlords…

Shadow Spectres – Spectre Holosuits Cover saves do stack with those granted by other sources, this should also count for Irillyth, unfortunately the rule on page 139 is in error and should be identical to the one onpage 135.

Shadow Spectres may be chosen to form an Aspect Lord-shrine (see page 178), and Irrilyth may be included in an army as a Living Legend as with other Phoenix Lords.

Shadow Spectre Exarchs have only 1 Wound, this is not in error – please let us know if you feel this is a problem, we’ll consider the feedback for any future editions.

Farseer Bel-anneth – Bel-annath cannot be taken as a Living Legend and may take no additional options and has no access to Remnants of Glory.

Skathach Wraith Knight – When using the Webway Shunt Generator a Skathach Wraith Knight moves 18” (the original value on Page 216 is an error). A Skathach Wraith Knight may only be selected as part of a Formation where it is explicitly listed as available as a valid choice.

Wraith Seer – The Wraith Seer may only be selected as part of a formation or army list where it is explicitly listed as available as a valid choice. The only exception to this is that it may be selected as a HQ choice for a Battleforged army selected from either Codex: Eldar or Codex: Iyanden.

Lynx – The correct profile for the Lynx profile for all versions of this vehicle should have a range of 48” for the Saturation mode and 24” for the Salvo mode.

Warphunter – The D-flail’s Dispersed special rule should be worded as follows for all versions of this weapon: A weapon with this special rule, when rolling on the Destroyer Weapons attack table, counts all rolls of ‘6’ (Devastating Hit/Deathblow) as ‘5’ (Solid Hit/Seriously Wounded) results instead.

Wasp Phalanx – Wasp Assault Walkers taken as part of a Wasp Phalanx gain the Deep Strike special rule, this was omitted in error.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 02:13

Hmmm.
It does't say anything about Irillyth's Shadow of Death rule, which seems to wrongly require a Shadow Spectre Unit for Shadow of Death to work.
Irillyth alone = no Shadow of Death.
Which seems silly, i mean, hello! Phoenix Lord! C'mon...

Or is that cleared somewhere else?

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 05:04

I know, right?! That was MY most burning question, which still remains unanswered.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 05:33

None of which is official anyway! An email from the forgeworld team is as anecdotal as a red shirts answers.

I wish they would FAQ it properly...

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 06:31

Plus the select psychic powers against generate them question was skipped. Some useful anecdotal evidence to support generally sensible rules calls though.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 13:34

The Corsair Prince, Skathach WK, and Iryllith/Living Legend ones were pretty surprising to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 17:43

Well I'm going to pretty much ignore this, they lost all credibility with the "spirit stone of anath'lan" answer. Since they apparently don't know that it is in the main book... so yeah. I'm going to ignore this one.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 23:17

@The Red King wrote:
Well I'm going to pretty much ignore this, they lost all credibility with the "spirit stone of anath'lan" answer. Since they apparently don't know that it is in the main book... so yeah. I'm going to ignore this one.

Huh? They didn't answer that one, or if they did, I don't see it. They answer the Iyanden part, but not the other.

Where is the answer in the main book?
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 23:19

Collector of Ancient Treasures – This option under the First Prince special rule only allows players to choose from the Codexes listed, not from any sub-codexes linked to them. So in this case items from Codex Iyanden may not be selected.


That was their answer. I meant that the artifact in question is in codex: Craftworld Eldar not the Iyanden supplement as they seem to believe.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 05:46

I don't think they believed that--there was a separate question about whether Iyanden relics could be taken. The question about the Spirit Stone was just unanswered. (Along the question about psychic powers.)
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 06:20

@The Red King wrote:
Collector of Ancient Treasures – This option under the First Prince special rule only allows players to choose from the Codexes listed, not from any sub-codexes linked to them. So in this case items from Codex Iyanden may not be selected.


That was their answer. I meant that the artifact in question is in codex: Craftworld Eldar not the Iyanden supplement as they seem to believe.

Question:
Collector of Ancient Treasures - Can this also be extended to the Iyanden Codex?

Answer:
Collector of Ancient Treasures – This option under the First Prince special rule only allows players to choose from the Codexes listed, not from any sub-codexes linked to them. So in this case items from Codex Iyanden may not be selected.

Question:
If a Corsair Prince with the Spirit Stone of An’athlan from Codex Eldar casts a psychic power using this stone, as he doesn't have Rune Armour, does any invulnerable save generated offered by a shadow field or power field etc still apply?

Answer:
Omitted from their response.

So I agree with Jimsolo, and I do not think that Forgeworld believes that the Spirite Stone of An'athlan is from the Iyanden Supplement and are aware that it is from Codex Eldar: Craftworlds.
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 08:05

@Jimsolo wrote:
The Corsair Prince, Skathach WK, and Iryllith/Living Legend ones were pretty surprising to me.
What surprised you about those?

The Skathach WK always seemed weird to me. Why would you ever choose to go 12" with a scatter when you could go 12" without scatter? If it was intended to 18" that would make a lot more sense.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 14:20

Did no-one ask if the Prince having to be your warlord precluded Corsairs being taken as allied detachments?

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 15:37

Doh

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 08 2016, 07:59

There is a general FAQ that says if you have a character that MUST be your warlord then his detachment must be the primary one.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 08 2016, 09:48

Drat. Where there goes half of my potential army lists hoping that wouldn't be the case...

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 08 2016, 12:33

You need an extra troops for a cad - it's no biggy

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSat Oct 08 2016, 21:23

Yeah it's more that i'll have to squeeze in an extra hq to get my elites/fast attack choices legal as i'll only get one of each in an allied cad...

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 09 2016, 17:16

Not sure I follow you - you take a cad of corsairs as allies and you get the full chart...

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 09 2016, 19:13

It's the alloed detachments that i'd wanted more fast attack in. Primary detachment of Corsairs, and then i wanted a squad of haywire scourges and one or two beast packs, but the allied DE CAD only has the one FA slot.

And wasn't the point that the Prince had to be the warlord so had to be primary detachment, or is that just a stipulation for the corsair raiding company?
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 09 2016, 20:01

Okay I'm a bit confused. Allied Detachments and Combined Arms Detachments (CAD) are two different things. Allying in a CAD would mean that you have to take one HQ and two troops to make it legal and has 3 Fast Attack Slots as optional. An Allied Detachment requires one HQ and one Troop but only has only a single Fast Attack slot. An Allied Detachment's HQ can never be your Warlord as per it's restrictions and it can never be your primary detachment.

Are you taking a CAD or an Allied Detachment?

As for the Prince being required to be your HQ that is a conflict and I don't really know the answer to. Hopefully someone has more information on it. The conflict comes in with the fact that the book states that if a Corsair detachment is included in your army you must take a prince and the prince must be the warlord; however, they say that the Corsairs may only be taken in a Corsair Raiding Company, Combined Arms Detachment, or an Allied Detachment. If you take them in an allied detachment you can't have the HQ as your warlord so does the rule in the book override the detachment restriction? Is it actually possible to have a Corsair Detachment and not have them as your warlord do to this?
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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeSun Oct 09 2016, 23:14

Yeah that was the question that i'd hope they would answer, as it wouldn't be possible to have an allied corsair detachment as the prince would have to be the warlord.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 10 2016, 13:24

Essentially no - you cant use the allied detachment with corsairs as written.

That said - running a double CAD or a raiding fleet + CAD or a CAD+ real space raiders is all perfectly fine and gets you the selections you want

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 10 2016, 13:27

Can you just run two CADs side-by-side if they're different factions? So a Dark Eldar CAD next to a Corsair CAD?

I know you can run multiple CADs of the same faction, or a CAD + any formation you like.

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PostSubject: Re: Corsairs FAQ (ish)   Corsairs FAQ (ish) I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 11 2016, 02:23

Of course you can! You can run as many detachments as you like of what ever factions you like. The only limit is what your opponent agrees to or the TO says you can do. I find 3-4 detachments tends to be the agreed limit

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