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fisheyes
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PostSubject: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeThu Sep 22 2016, 17:04

Prince = 110 pts
Shimmershield, Void Sabre, Brace of Pistols

Wasp = 70 pts
Dual Scatt

Reaver Band = 95
5 men, Dual Fusion Guns, JP

Balestrike = 150
5 men, Dark Lance, JP

This comes to 425 points, and I would like to bring this up to around 500 pts as an Allied Detachment to my DE army. I find that my DE lack good anti-tank guns, especially since the last few games I have played were against knights. Any suggestions on the Prince (upgrade to Collector of Ancient Treasures for the relic options?), or changing this up to be one of the Fleet Raiding Company formations?


My idea with this allied detachment is the Prince joins my Grotesquery to add his 5++ and rending. Wasp shoots stuff with the scatter lazers, Reaver band DS up and jumps around causing mayhem and possibly killing stuff. And the Balestrike band just sits back in my DZ and JSJ with the dark lances.



Any suggestions on how to run these boys and girls would be greatly appreciated

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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2016, 15:17

No idea if I'm just being paranoid about this (and I can't remember if Barons suffer from Dancing on a Blade's Edge or if they've just got the single leadership value), but could you take one to shore up the resolve of your Reaver squad and fulfill the requirement for a Sky Burners cotorie which would help with your DS scatters.

35pts to guarantee your fusion guns are within range of their target, increase the chance they'll be within melta range and add an extra higher leadership body to your Reaver squad.

Not sure why they're viewed as a tax...

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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2016, 17:32

My issue with him is that he costs 30 base, 5 for the JB, then another 20 for either the blast or fusion pistol. 55 pts for 1 shot/turn and a single turn of 1D6 scatter is kinda steep...

Does the formation allow for my Elite Wasp (war walker) to also deep strike with the 1D6?

Honistly though I think it may be better to start on the board and JSJ up an edge rather than hope for the turn 2 DS.
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2016, 18:23

Don't worry about the Baron! DON'T waste points on barons if you don't need them. Take a Void Dreamer instead either in the command crew and make the Prince the HQ for the cotorie or vice versa.

If you insist on taking a baron then turn the Reavers into ghostwalkers since the IC rule keeping them out of infiltrating/scouting units does not apply to barons as they aren't IC's.

Sky burners allows ALL members of the cotorie to reroll reserves and deep strike 1d6. Even on a Lynx or Warp Hunter.
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2016, 22:00

Perhaps they are overpriced, but I'd definitely steer clear of Fusion and Blast pistols. 6" range is just not enough for the same price as their full-sized relatives.

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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeMon Sep 26 2016, 22:04

Agreed. Especially when for less points the baron could have a haywire grenade in a squad that doesn't have grenades.
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 27 2016, 18:25

Hmm, and extra psychic support may be nice with the Dreamer. Do people give them any gear, or just extra Mastery Levels?
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PostSubject: Re: Allied Corsair Force   Allied Corsair Force I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 27 2016, 18:39

I give them tangle field grenades but you're not really bringing anything that benefits several times over from them. Haywire grenade if they get the chance to use it.

I almost always give them a shimmershield and if they are sharing a squad with the prince I give the prince a shadow field.

I view shimmershield as mandatory picks if at all possible. Above psyker level 3 if necessary.
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