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PostSubject: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 01:06

This is a 2000 point non objective list. Let me know thoughts please and thank you.

Realspace Raiders - 1996 Point Army
HQ - 10 Points
Lhameans

Elites - 60 Points
x5 Mandrakes

Troops - 420 Points
x4 Squads of 5 stock Warriors in Venoms with Splinter Cannons

Fast Attack - 386 Points
Razorwing Jetfighter with Dark Lances
x6 Reavers with 2 Cluster Caltrops
x5 Scourges with 4 Haywire Blasters

Heavy Support - 235 Points
Ravager 3 Disintegrator Cannons
Ravager 3 Dark Lances


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Dark Artisan - 405 Points
Cronos with sprit probe
Talos with Chain Flails and Heat Lances
Haemonculus with Scissorhand, Nightmare Doll and Webway Portal

Grotesquerie - 480 Points
x4 Grotesque in Raider (Lhameans in squad)
x4 Grotesque in Raider (Haemonculus in squad)
Haemonculus with Scissorhand and Sindriq's Sump


    I was thinking to deep strike the Dark Artisan, Scourges, and one of the Warrior Squads in Venom.  The Dark Artisan would come in next to the Grotesques to pump fell no pain.  Let me know your thoughts and problems with list.  I normally play against space marines and chaos.  Thank you for any help.
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 02:00

AFAIK the Lhameans isn't a character and won't be able to join one of the grot squads, additionally i'd replace the dissies on one of the ravager with lances to help mitigate bad reserve rolls. Might be worth dropping the mandrakes to do this and then giving nightshields to the grot raiders to fill in the points?
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 15:41

Nocturabear is correct, the lhamean cannot join a squad (she is neither a character or an IC).

The grots in the Grotesquery dont really need a babysitter, since they will be fearless turn 2, and sitting in their raider turn 1.

Why are you going with the RSR over a CAD? You are not making use of the 6 FA slots, which is the ONLY reason to go RSR over CAD. You also get to reroll your warlord trait (if you use the Grotesquery Hemie rather than the DA Hemie [who comes with a WL trait stock]).

If you want to make use of the RSR, try to bring a bunch of 1 man beastmaster squads to the game. Its really funny watching a 180 pt chaptermaster waste a turn killing a 10 point beast Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 16:24

Forgot that the lhamean was not IC so I guess she will just be on foot until she dies.  On running as RSR we are playing Purge the Alien right now so with no objectives there goes one of the best advantages of running CAD.  I figured the 1st round cover was better than the reroll on warloard trait.

Now on the warlord what is better going for the DA trait or doing another trait with the Haem in the grotesquery?

On the one ravager that does not have darklances.  About 90% of all players in area run Space Marines and I have found getting 9 ap 2 shoots kills lots of marines.  On the nightshields I may drop the mandrakes to put those on the ravagers or I could use those points for some beastmaster squads.  Could do 3 squads.
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 19:59

OK I made a few changes.  I got rid of ravagers and put troops in raiders with lances.  Then put 3 of Venoms as fast attacks.  This means all but 1 Venom is empty and free to zoom around and shoot with no warriors just sitting.  This left me with 10 points let over.  I put them into 1 blaster for reavers.  Looked like best use of 10 points.  Let me know thoughts.  May deepstrike 1 or 2 of raiders now.


Realspace Raiders - 1999 Point Army
HQ - 75 Points
Lhamean in Venom with Splinter Cannon

Elites - 48 Points
x4 Mandrakes

Troops - 400 Points
x4 Squads of 5 stock Warriors in Raiders with Dark Lances

Fast Attack - 591 Points
Razorwing Jetfighter with Dark Lances
x6 Reavers with 2 Cluster Caltrops and 1 Blaster
x5 Scourges with 4 Haywire Blasters
x3 Venoms with Splinter Cannons


Coven
Dark Artisan - 405 Points
Cronos with sprit probe
Talos with Chain Flails and Heat Lances
Haemonculus with Scissorhand, Nightmare Doll and Webway Portal

Grotesquerie - 480 Points
x4 Grotesque in Raider with Disintegrator
x4 Grotesque in Raider with Disintegrator (Haemonculus in squad)
Haemonculus with Scissorhand and Sindriq's Sump
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeTue Sep 20 2016, 21:13

Hi,

Thought I chime in with a few thoughts:

I personally think you've invested too many points in the DA & not enough in the Grotesquerie.

The problem I have with the NmD & WWP is that you will only get to use your FNP buff once you finally get the DA from reserves, which may not be untill turn 3/4. The 1st few turns without the DA buff, the enemies Alpha Strike would potentially be the most potent & you may find u wish the Grots. were already within the 12" bubble.

Only my opinion, but if u NmD you start on the table, to get most use from the buff. I will counter by saying I don't play @ 2000pts, so add salt......

Final & maybe most contraversial thought, your 3rd & 4th units of warriors are only there to get the Raiders right? If so, then drop the Warriors & you can instead get 3 x Lhameans with Lance Raiders instead. +1 Raider + 2 Lhamean - 10 Warriors = good trade Smile

Since Ob. Sec. isn't an issue & nothing to say we can't bring 4 Courts lol
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PostSubject: Re: Thoughts on 2000 point list   Thoughts on 2000 point list I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 21 2016, 18:47

Thank you for the thoughts Rewind. Only thing I was worried about on the DA is I normally run my Grots up round 1 then disembark round 2 which means I only would get the DA buff round one but I will say I go back and forward on this all the time.

Game I played last night I brought in DA with WWP and worked right next to grots in combat but had a SM knight come up behind me and stomp the DA and kill all 3 with 1 roll. Will have to be more carful around those knights. Did not realize stomp was that powerful.

On the raiders I like that idea only have 1 Lhameans right now but may have to get some more.

Thank you.
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