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Xm0shcryptX
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PostSubject: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 30 2016, 04:41

2 cads
Lhamaean 10
Venom 65
Lhamaean 10
Venom 65
5x5 Warriors blaster sybarite haywire grenades 350
5 venoms 325
3x5 mandrakes 180
2x5 hwb scourge 240
4x1 clawed fiend 100

Grotesqurie 505
Haemonculus scissor hands 80
3 grotesques Aberration agonizer 140
3 grotesques Abberation agonizer 140
Raider 55
Raider 55

Let me know what you guys think
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 17:36

the Clawed Fiends certainly are an interesting take. I own four of them myself and love using them but I havent seen them used like this. I have seen Spawn do a very similar thing where they are basically just there to take objectives, and my Crisis Teams with no weapons do the same thing for 23 points. So that is an interesting thing to do.

7 venoms is a lot o shots. Thats the "normal" part of the list. My only exhortation to you would be to add Aethersails tothose Grotesque Raiders which allows them to start farther back and out of range of more stuff when not going first. Its key gear thats worth taking.

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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 04 2016, 21:11

Hi there,

I think some of your points are off a little, but fortunately your under. So with that in mind, I have taken the liberty of re-writing your list & adding the Aethersails. Also your formatting triggered by OCD Smile Sad

DE Craziness 1845

Grotesquerie (480)
Haemonculus, SH (80) (Warlord)
2 x 3 Grotesques, Incl. Abber, Agoniser, Raiders, Aethersails (400)

CAD 1 (750)
Lhamean, Cannon Venom (75)
3 x 3 Mandrakes (108)
3 x 5 Warriors, Incl. Syb, HWG & Blaster, Cannon Venom (405)
3 x 1 Clawed Fiend (90)

Cad 2 (615)
Lhamean, Cannon Venom (75)
2 x 3 Mandrakes (72)
2 x 5 Warriors, Incl. Syb, HWG & Blaster, Cannon Venom (270)
1 x Clawed Fiend (30)
2 x 5 Scourges, 4 x HWB (240)

*FLIES AWAY!


Last edited by Rewind on Wed Oct 05 2016, 07:38; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Grammar Nazi Triggered, then corrected Mandrakes)
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 03:55

I think the plan was to maximize MSU, so that would mean 5 squads of 3 mandrakes, not 3 squads of 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 06:38

Agreed, but what is written is identical to what op posted (plus aethersails).
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeWed Oct 05 2016, 07:23

@amorrowlyday wrote:
but what is written is identical to what op posted (plus aethersails).

You heathen, you philistine!

@Fisheyes Corrected
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeThu Oct 06 2016, 17:57

Well in any event its highly interesting and I'd like an immediate battle report showing its efficacy.

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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 03 2016, 05:14

So I know you all have been waiting I have made a few changes to this list so I'll post the new one to start
2 cads
2 Lhamaean 20
2 Venom 130
4x5 warriors 200
4 venoms 260
3 ravagers with 3 dark Lance's each 375
3x3 mandrakes 108
3x1 clawed fiends 90
2x5 scourge 4 haywire blasters 240

Grotesquerie
Haemonculus stinger pistol
3 grotesques Aberration agonizer 140
Raider 55
3 grotesques Aberration agonizer 140
Raider 55

This has been probably the most flexible and devastating pure de lists I have used. I lost to top teir tau because of their retaliation cadre but I completely ate alive a competitive gene stealer cult list, space wolves, gladius, and blood angels/sky hammer
Combo lists. It was quite glorious to see people struggle to keep up with the msu, the fire power, the infiltration, and the speed.

So I continue to play it and have been enjoying this play style (I play competitively with my flgs a lot)
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 04 2016, 19:22

This does look like a fairly brutal MSU list. 6 venoms, 2 raiders, 3 ravagers, then 3x mandrakes, clawed fiends and two haywire scourges. 19 different units on the board (assuming everything goes in its transport).

I like it, but just wouldn't want to paint that many venoms Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 04 2016, 20:52

The spider keeps making me want to get taloi for that corpse thief lol but I like my style too
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 07 2016, 23:24

@Xm0shcryptX wrote:
So I know you all have been waiting I have made a few changes to this list so I'll post the new one to start
2 cads
2 Lhamaean 20
2 Venom 130
4x5 warriors 200
4 venoms 260
3 ravagers with 3 dark Lance's each 375
3x3 mandrakes 108
3x1 clawed fiends 90
2x5 scourge 4 haywire blasters 240

Grotesquerie
Haemonculus stinger pistol
3 grotesques Aberration agonizer 140
Raider 55
3 grotesques Aberration agonizer 140
Raider 55

This has been probably the most flexible and devastating pure de lists I have used. I lost to top teir tau because of their retaliation cadre but I completely ate alive a competitive gene stealer cult list, space wolves, gladius, and blood angels/sky hammer
Combo lists. It was quite glorious to see people struggle to keep up with the msu, the fire power, the infiltration, and the speed.

So I continue to play it and have been enjoying this play style (I play competitively with my flgs a lot)

This list pleases me.

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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeMon Nov 07 2016, 23:25

@fisheyes wrote:
This does look like a fairly brutal MSU list. 6 venoms, 2 raiders, 3 ravagers, then 3x mandrakes, clawed fiends and two haywire scourges. 19 different units on the board (assuming everything goes in its transport).

I like it, but just wouldn't want to paint that many venoms Razz

Venoms take no time to paint.

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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 08 2016, 03:23

If only it wouldn't get obliterated by tau Sad I just want to win one tournament before I die lol
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PostSubject: Re: Kind of unorthodox 1850.    Kind of unorthodox 1850.  I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 09 2016, 23:33

reserves.

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