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Voidgazer
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PostSubject: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeThu Aug 04 2016, 17:49

Hi fellow Archons!

Me and some friends are having a small tournament as i'm returning to the motherland for a while before heading on to new travels. In any case i'm still very new to 40k but have played WHFB until Age of Silly. This is my second time playing and third battle so still a greenhorn in the 40k universe.  alien

In any case, so i'm facing off against Tau, Space Wolves, Orks and Tyranids. None of us are very focused on winning and rather just have a good game so no lists full of cheese though i still want an honest chance of beating them.

This is the list i have put together combining Corsairs and DE, please let me know if there is anything i could do to improve it though at the time the models i have available is a bit limited.

In any case, here's the list:

Dark Eldar CAD - Total: 471 pts

HQ:

Court of the Archon
1x Lhamean
Total: 10 pts


Troops:

5x Kabalite Warriors
+ Dedicated Transport:
Venom
-Splinter Cannon
Total: 105 pts

5x Kabalite Warriors
+ Dedicated Transport:
Venom
-Splinter Cannon
Total: 105 pts


Fast Attack:

6x Reaver jetbikes
-2x Cluster Caltrops
Total: 126 pts

Heavy Support:

Ravager
3x Dark lances
Total: 125 pts


Corsairs - Primary Detachment - Titan breakers
Total: 495 pts

HQ:

Corsair Prince
Collector of Ancients Treasures -Shard of Anaris
-Cloud Dancer
-Lvl 1 Wild Psyker
Shadowfield
Total: 135 pts

Corsair Baron
-Jetpack
-Shimmersheild
Total: 50 pts


Troops:

6x Corsair Reavers
-6x Jet packs
-2x Blaster
Total: 140 pts

4x Cloud Dancers
-4x Scatter Lasers
Total: 120 pts

Fast Attack:

Corsair Hornet
-2x Pulse Laser
Total: 80 pts


So the rough idea is to have the Prince to run along with the Reaver jetbikes as some kind of CC beatstick to pick up annoying heavy weapon troops and similarly annoying units. Have been thinking of that it might be better to turn them into 2x 3 man groups for target saturation. Thoughts?

With the rest i have just tried to make a balanced MSU styled approach and leave most of the AT lifting to the Corsairs while the DE takes on infantry and Objective securing.

The single Lhamean is there just to fill the HQ tax and will stand in some dark corner of the battlefield outside of LOS watching her young and daring Corsair Prince do all the heavy lifting. The Baron tags along with the reavers to add an extra bit of survivability with his shimmersheild.

Now i do have roughly 35 pts left to spend (with our house rules we don't care to much if it should happen to be 1-2 points above) and not sure where to spend it exactly. Either i could maybe give each Kabalite squad a Blaster and add in 5 pts on whatever (Felarch, Void burners on Hornet, etc) or maybe it is better to shave off some pts somewhere and add another Venom as a dedicated transport for the Lhamean?

Please let me know what you think and thanks in advance, for Commorragh!
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 00:43

Sure have seen a lot of these Corsairs lately. Even at BAO I saw one of these types of lists. Interesting...

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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 06:22

Literally the only thing that will benefit from your titan breakers is the 2 blasters. That's a wasted specialization.

I wouldn't even worry about the venom. If anything I'd turn the DE portion into an allied detachment, cut 1 Warrior squad, give their venom to the Lhamean, and fill the point difference with 75pt splinter cannon Cloud Dancer squads. If necessary turn the Fleet Raiding party into a CAD rather than take a third HQ.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 10:05

Yeah I agree with amorrowlyday, drop the kabalites and give venom to lhamaean. X5 reavers with 2 blasters do the job better anyhow, so if you want the guns then swap kabs for reavers and add another venom into the mix if you can

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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 10:08

Also cloud dancers with scatter lasers are pure awesome. The extra 35pts will buy you another one to make your squad to 5, which will be better for morale of you take any casualties too

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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 11:47

@Unorthodoxy: These Corsairs as Corsairs in general or this army set up specifically? I never am good with keeping track on tournaments  so this is me mainly just using what i like the most about respective army ^^

@amorrowlyday: Surly the Pulse lasers on the Hornet and scatterlasers againt low AV targets benefit from it as well? At least for me both of them did assist me in my last 2 games i had vs orks and Space Wolves.  And what other specialization would you then suggest?
With limited models i'm running out of bikes bu t could possibly make it happen, some sound advice at least. Thanks

@spellcheck2001: If i give the Venom to the Lhamean is it mainly to add extra protection too her or is it just for the sake of being able to have it as a dedicated transport?
I have like 2 more jetbikes and that is an excellent use for them points. Though they do border on the line of the realm of cheese i did have great success with them my last games.

Any of you guys who have an opinion on if i should split up the 6x reaver jetbikes into groups of 3 and have the prince go into 1 of them rather then 1 "big" unit of them? A benefit i see is more target saturation but against strong CC foes like Space Marines and Orks it might be better to have a larger group for morale and general fighting strength?
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 13:57

The venom is more Dakka, so keeping it is good, and as you say, it gives more protection to the lhamaean, and means she can zip around claiming the odd objective here and there.

I reckon you should get rid of the reavers all together and just use them as cloud dancers. I know what you mean about the cheese though, so if you do want to keep them then running them in a bigger squad is better IMO, because they pack more punch, and the 25% casualties is harder to achieve than a 3 man, where all you need to kill is one model for them to take a morale check

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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 14:06

I would also suggest giving your prince a void sabre. They are great, making him st5 ap3, which could pled with your reavers caltrops mean they will really pack a punch in melee

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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 05 2016, 21:54

I dunno. I think the str6/fearless combo the shard of Anaris grants is better, especially if they are going to be in a unit of DE Reavers. If you cut that unit though I'm not sure if I keep my prince on a bike.

@Voidgazer The only unit types that benefit from titan breakers are jetbikes and infantry/jetpack Infantry. So your Hornet gains no benefits. The only one that effects all units in the detachment is Skyburners which may be alright, or you could grab Hate Bringers for the potential victory point. Personally I'd take a CAD in this list instead so I could re-roll my princes Warlord trait and roll on personal traits.
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PostSubject: Re: 1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends   1000pts DE/Corsairs army for a tournament between friends I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 17 2016, 09:26

Sorry, was away for a while but thank you both for your suggestions and thoughts.

@spellcheck2001 Yeah i get your point but i try to have the both armies make up for roughly 50% each and yeah as said it is only between friends so there is really no need to get as many as possible cloud dancers out even though it would of course be more optimal but going down that road will just end in basically replacing DE with Corsairs Razz
As amorrowlyday also said i think i have a stronger Melee Weapon with Shard of Anaris already? Most take Mask of Secrets but since i'm not going in the freakshow direction at all with this list i don't see much point to it.


@amorrowlyday Yeah i totally missed the only infantry/jetpack/jetbike part. So i will go for Hate Bringers i think and try to rock up some extra VP with my prince/reaver jetbikes squad. I get what you mean with taking a CAD which is indeed a safer and maybe better choice for my list but i rather play around and see what i can do with the different Coteiries, especially in friendly games Smile
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