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PostSubject: A Growing Army 500 -> 750   A Growing Army 500 -> 750 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 05 2016, 12:36

Hi guys,

As my collections & experience grows, I've been trying to think of a few more creative ways of expanding my list, rather than running the same things over & over.

With this is mind, I've been trying to work out if running Grots. @ 750 is viable?

My starting 500:

Lhamean, Cannon Venom (75)
Sybarite (WL), 4 x Warriors, Cannon Venom (115)
5 x Warriors, Cannon Venom (105)
4 x Reavers, CC (79)
Lance Ravager (125)

A typical DE 500 list, which I had planned to grow to 750 as follows:

Lhamean, Canon Venom (75)
Sybarite, HWG (WL), 4 x Warriors, Canon Venom (120) - HWG as 5 spare points
5 x Warriors, Cannon Venom (105)
4 x Reavers, CC (79)
5 x Scourges, 4 x HWB (120)
2 x Lance Ravagers (250)

However, after a little playing in BattleScribe, I came up with this:

WIP 750

Lhamean (10)
Aberration, 2 x Grots, Raider (170)
2 x 5 x Warriors, Cannon Venoms (210)
3 x Reavers, CC (63)
5 x Scourges, 4 x HWB (120)
Lance Ravager (125)

The above is 698 points & I was hoping for a little advice on:

A. Are Grots. a silly idea at this points level?
B. Where should I put the last 52 points?

I've considered more Lhameans & an extra Reaver, or maybe even another Grot?

As always I appreciate any help & comments received!

Many Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: A Growing Army 500 -> 750   A Growing Army 500 -> 750 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 05 2016, 20:09

At 750, I always prefer to run 3 ravagers. At this point level, 3 lance ravagers are simply brutal.

That said, your proposed list looks fine if you want to try that due to liking the particular units/models. Grots are a bit expensive at this points level, but if you're going to run them, you may as well use some of those spare points to give the aberration an agonizer.

If you DO want to change up your list to include more lance ravagers, maybe run something like this:

Lhamean in dual cannon venom (75)
2 x 5 x Warriors, Cannon Venoms (210)
3 x Reavers, CC & Arena Champ w/Power Sword (88)
3 x Lance Ravager (375)


Either way, good luck with whatever you decide! And let us know how it goes! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A Growing Army 500 -> 750   A Growing Army 500 -> 750 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 05 2016, 20:59

Thx Betray,

I don't currently own a 3rd Ravager and I kinda prefer 2 Ravagers & a unit of Scourges, but it's my personal preference.

I did kinda assume maybe the Grots. were a little too expensive & shied away from putting more points int them with upgrades, but as I mentioned, it's to give myself another way to run my collection, rather than the 2nd list above which is my current go to 750.

I'm still converting my Grots. planning on taking a full on Grotesquerie later on, so it's just a WIP idea for now, I'll probably play them a few times anyway, just to get used to them Smile

I may run a few games with the Arena Champ WL though, I dropped him from my 500, as I found it made my Reavers too much of a priority target, being my 2nd AT & my WL.

But @ 750 with then 3 other dedicated AT options, the Reavers may get a bit more breathing room, we'll see....

Thanks again Smile

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PostSubject: Re: A Growing Army 500 -> 750   A Growing Army 500 -> 750 I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 05 2016, 21:14

No problem. Just an FYI, at such a low point value, I don't really recommend scourges as AT because they aren't as survivable or flexible as ravagers. I'd expect a SERIOUS difference in list performance between 2 ravagers & scourges vs. 3 Ravagers. Just something to keep in mind if you decide to expand your collection soon.

As for the grots, absolutely run them a few times and try them out! I also encourage you to definitely use them more once you have enough for your grotesquerie. The "latest experiments" table or w/e it's called is really helpful to giving grots JUST enough to push them to the REALLY nasty level.

Good luck, Rewind, and let us know how it all goes! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A Growing Army 500 -> 750   A Growing Army 500 -> 750 I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 24 2016, 00:05

@BetrayTheWorld wrote:
Good luck, Rewind, and let us know how it all goes! Very Happy

So, with a bunch of games under my belt (not quite full rules yet, but we're getting there!) my list has evolved slightly due to my Meta expanding & the fact that I've not gotten another Ravager yet lol Smile

CAD 746

Sslyth, Cannon Venom (90)
2 x 5 Warriors, Blasters, Cannon Venoms (240)
3 x Reavers, Incl Arena Champ, Agoniser, CC (WL) (98)
3 x Reavers, Incl Heat Lance, CC (73)
5 x Scourges, 4 x HWB (120)
Triple Lance Ravager (125)

I currently face 500 & 750 SM, AM & SW or combinations.

The 1st SM guy has 1000pts to pick from + a Start Collecting AM box & loves his Lemon Russ Sad The 2nd has a Start Collecting Space Wolves plus a few odd models. His 1st game he brought 40 pts of 5 x Fenrisian Wolves & allied to AM lol, they ate my Reavers then died to Venom Overwatch!

The current shopping list is a 2nd Ravager, then models to convert into Grots. + Raider, dropping the inefficient upgrades should bring me to 1000 quite nicely.

Long term, more Grots, another Raider & fill out to a full Grotesquerie and a Dark Archon.

Meta will gradually include more SM fliers, AM Lemon Russ's & Artillery & many Wolves & Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Looking forward to it, got a campaign planned for when we feel we have the basic rules sorted lol.
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