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Shrdr
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PostSubject: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 15 2016, 23:57

Looking for some C&C on this list. Will be my first DE army and list/tournament.

++ Dark Eldar: Codex (2014) (DE Realspace Raiders Detachment) (1500pts) ++
Archon (165pts) [Blaster, Clone field, Close Combat Weapon, Haywire Grenades, Kabalite Armour]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (120pts) [4x Kabalite Warrior]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (120pts) [4x Kabalite Warrior]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (120pts) [4x Kabalite Warrior]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (120pts) [4x Kabalite Warrior]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Kabalite Warriors (120pts) [4x Kabalite Warrior]
Kabalite Warrior with special weapon [Blaster]
Venom [Splinter Cannon]

Razorwing Jetfighter (165pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Nightshield, Splinter Cannon]
Razorwing Jetfighter (165pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Nightshield, Splinter Cannon]
Razorwing Jetfighter (165pts) [2 Dark Lances, 4x Monoscythe Missile, Nightshield, Splinter Cannon]

Scourges (120pts) [Scourge]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]

Scourges (120pts) [Scourge]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]
Scourge with Special / Heavy weapon [Haywire blaster]

Formation: Dark Artisan (350pts)
Cronos [Spirit Probe]
Haemonculus [2x Close combat weapon, Splinter Pistol, The Nightmare Doll]
Talos [Close combat weapon, Twin-Linked Splinter Cannon]
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 00:57

HWB are useless if your opponents have no vehicules. I would switch one squad to hl.
You have a lot of reserve and no reserve manipulation. Bad reserve rolls will cost you games during a tournament.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 01:11

The current meta at the shop is at least an IK and multiple fliers. I should have added that. Also like I mentioned new to DE HWB I'm assuming is talking about the blasters
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 07:29

Hey dude, I think HWB is referring to the Haywire blasters. (If that was your question!)

Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 10:25

BOOM! That makes way more sense haha. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 15:26

Do you already have all these models? Because if not, I might consider a different way of dealing with the multiple flier meta. I'm not speaking from personal experience here, but from what I've heard, people aren't having great success with our jetfighters in the "death from the skies" rules.
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 16 2016, 18:02

I do have these models but I also have more options so what would suggestion be?
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PostSubject: Re: 1850 ITC Tournament   1850 ITC Tournament I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 17 2016, 00:53

Primarily to front-load your army to kill everything else while the flyers are off the table. Flyers cost so much that people are generally a bit light elsewhere simply by including 1 or 2 of them. Any more than that, and they're seriously suffering.

If you take a Lhamean instead of your Archon, drop the flyers, and drop the blasters from the warriors, that gives you quite a few points. Quick example list:

CAD1
Lhamean in dual cannon venom 75
2x 5 Kabalite warriors in dual cannon venoms 210
2x 5 Scourges w/ 4 Haywire Blasters 240
3x Ravager with Triple Dark Lances 375

CAD2
Lhamean in dual cannon venom 75
2x 5 Kabalite warriors in dual cannon venoms 210
3x Ravager with Triple Dark Lances 375

Dark Artisan (No upgrades on anyone)
Haemonculus 70
Talos 120
Cronos 100

TOTAL: 1850

This gives you a fairly potent alpha strike list with lots of 36" range shots:

18 dark lance shots, 8 haywire blaster shots, 72 splinter shots(only from venoms - more from troops if you get closer)


Bear in mind, I'm giving this advice as if you want to stick with pure DE. If willing to use allies, there are better options for almost everything, haha.
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