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fisheyes
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PostSubject: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 18 2016, 16:28

Hi all.

I have recently decided to join the dark side and put my SM on a shelf. This is the list that I have created over the last few months, but so far its not complete. I was hoping that a new "Get Started" collection for DE would drop, but it appears my hopes are for naught.

Anyway, this is what I have so far:

HQ:
-Archon - AoM, Agonizer (to be used in Grot squad as Ld buff/debuff)

Elite:
-3 Grots
--Raider - NS

Warrior:
-5 Warriors - Blaster (I lack AT, hence the blasters)
--Venom - SC

-5 Warriors - Blaster
--Venom - SC

FA:
-Beastpack - 10 Kaymera, Beastmaster
-Razorwing - Dissies, SC

HS:
-Ravager - Dissies

Formations:
DA - Spirit Probe, WWP

The above comes out to 1225 exactly. Any pointers for the remaining 275? I know the last FA slot will be easy to fill (either scourges or reavers for AT). Also maybe some 3 man squads of mandrakes for objective holding?
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PostSubject: Re: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 18 2016, 20:06

I'd lose the WWP on the dark artisan since they'll be able to run across the board and be in the same place by turn 3(which is when they'd be able to charge at the earliest with WWP), and they have the ability to charge in turns 1 and 2 while they're on the table. Can't do anything at all from reserves.

That would leave you with 310 points available.

I'd drop the grots in a raider with nightshields also, and use the resulting 485 points to pay for this:

Grotesquerie:
1x units of 3 grotesques w/aberation + agonizer in raider w/night shields & dissie 210
1x units of 3 grotesques w/aberation in raider w/night shields & dissie 185
1x Haemonculus w/Stinger Pistol(this will give him 2 pistols for the gunslinger rule) 75

That's 470 points, leaving you with 15.

I'd use it to swap your beastpack for a triple lance ravager. I'm a huge fan of khymera, but not without buffs. They're -almost- the perfect unit to buff(they were better last edition with a 4++), but in the current edition, they're really not that good without psychic buffs or something, especially when you already have melee covered with a grotesquerie.

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PostSubject: Re: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 19 2016, 12:43

The beast-pack is one of my favourite units in DE, so they will stay (I have converted some Cold Ones into the beastmaster. And everyone knows regardless of points, if you bring dinosaur cavalry to a game, you are always a winner Wink ).

I have been thinking of putting in a grotesquerie, but the GW model is just horrible. And my 3 existing Grots are already converted from the Crypt Horrors.

Any other suggestions other than the grotesquerie?
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PostSubject: Re: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 19 2016, 21:04

Not really. Your logic confounds me and makes it impossible for me to think clearly after hearing it.

I build armies based on function only. If I don't like models, I can always convert something I DO like, but I make the list based on how it will work. Keeping a points sink in while being hesitant to take a clearly superior-performer due to liking and disliking the models respectively has taken this conversation outside of my comfort zone. Very Happy

Good luck with your games!
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PostSubject: Re: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 20 2016, 19:45

Ok, well I guess Im on my own. Thanks for the suggestion regardless.
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PostSubject: Re: Complete 1500 List   Complete 1500 List I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 20 2016, 20:02

Definitely have an AT hole. Just be careful as if you lost your lances/ravager walkers will absolutely destroy grots/anything that gets within 12".

Death company dread (from drop pod) killed half my grotesquerie before I could immobolize it, which was lucky because I only had one ravager.

I highly suggest converting another 3 grots. Grotesques are AMAZING against pretty much everything but walkers and s10+ MC's/GMC's.

I used talos bits and crypt horror/vargheist base model.

Def consider scourges if you know you will face armor.

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